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Why are they, in your words, "winning"? More people voted for it than against. My point is that it only seems strange to defend it if you don't personally share

Why are they, in your words, "winning"? More people voted for it than against. My point is that it only seems strange to defend it if you don't personally share the value. Clearly many people who voted differently have different values, and they might say it would need defending. To see this, suppose Bezos talked instead about how the editorial staff needed to prioritize egalitarianism. There are plenty of people who share this value. You can find a great many manifestations of this value in our society. It's embedded into our constitution and legislation. But does that mean that the newspaper would be wrong to defend egalitarianism?

whattheheckheck 2y ago
Most people can't string 3 steps of a logical argument together and can't see the system they live in. They actually believe in God and they actually believe they get an afterlife... like how much more gullible can you get
- paulddraper 2y ago
  You could even belong in morality.
Terretta 2y ago
> More people voted for it than against. What's meant by "it"? • 77,302,580 voted for this administration (49.8%) • 77,935,722 voted against this administration (50.2%) Source: https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024presgeresults.pdf https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024pres...
- araes 2y ago
  I'd actually like to see the Greens and the Libertarians get together and run a candidate. Oliver (Libs) got 650,126, and Stein got 862,049. Put em together and you've got enough voters to actually have a reasonable chance of grass roots momentum, exponential involvement, compounding returns on capital / effort, large donor buy-ins, numbers that meet news media minima for free coverage, and long-term viability. The Green's usually are identified as being libertarian socialism anyways, so it would not be a horrible cooperation to hang out with Libertarians and discuss how to make environmentalism; nonviolence; and social justice work with civil liberties; non-interventionism; and laissez-faire capitalism. And then they could state that they're not a spoiler, since they draw voters relatively equally from what might otherwise be Democrats and Republicans.
- bitshiftfaced 2y ago
  Thanks. If I could, I would edit my comment with, "more people voted for it than any other alternative" so that my comment could run ok through the HN compiler.

whattheheckheck 2y ago

Most people can't string 3 steps of a logical argument together and can't see the system they live in. They actually believe in God and they actually believe they get an afterlife... like how much more gullible can you get

paulddraper 2y ago
You could even belong in morality.

Terretta 2y ago

> More people voted for it than against. What's meant by "it"? • 77,302,580 voted for this administration (49.8%) • 77,935,722 voted against this administration (50.2%) Source: https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024presgeresults.pdf https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024pres...

araes 2y ago
I'd actually like to see the Greens and the Libertarians get together and run a candidate. Oliver (Libs) got 650,126, and Stein got 862,049. Put em together and you've got enough voters to actually have a reasonable chance of grass roots momentum, exponential involvement, compounding returns on capital / effort, large donor buy-ins, numbers that meet news media minima for free coverage, and long-term viability. The Green's usually are identified as being libertarian socialism anyways, so it would not be a horrible cooperation to hang out with Libertarians and discuss how to make environmentalism; nonviolence; and social justice work with civil liberties; non-interventionism; and laissez-faire capitalism. And then they could state that they're not a spoiler, since they draw voters relatively equally from what might otherwise be Democrats and Republicans.
bitshiftfaced 2y ago
Thanks. If I could, I would edit my comment with, "more people voted for it than any other alternative" so that my comment could run ok through the HN compiler.