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> For decades they have dutifully aired competing perspectives from the political left and right as well as major international players of different stripes. I
by mmooss 2y ago
> For decades they have dutifully aired competing perspectives from the political left and right as well as major international players of different stripes.
I'd say they were clearly on the left since ~2017, but had other perspectives as well.
- righthand 2y agoArguably any main newspaper of a city of any size would obviously align with the beliefs of the residents of said city.
- mmooss 2y agoHow does that explain the NYT and WSJ (and NY Post) in the same city? The current LA Times?
- righthand 2y agoNY Times the main newspaper and it mostly aligns with the left. Not sure what’s confusing about that. The others aren’t the main newspaper of that city. It’s not a rule or law but an observation and it does seem pretty accurate. I’m not sure what you’re asking, I don’t read the LA Times, was it bought out by a known right-wing wealthy person or something?
- mmooss 2y ago> NY Times the main newspaper and it mostly aligns with the left. Not sure what’s confusing about that. The others aren’t the main newspaper of that city. The NY Post and Wall Street Journal are among the main newspapers in NYC. > I don’t read the LA Times, was it bought out by a known right-wing wealthy person or something? The owner has openly killed left-wing editorial and supported the right (including Trump). > It’s not a rule or law but an observation and it does seem pretty accurate. If you can find evidence for it. It doesn't seem true in NY or LA.
- righthand 2y agoYo. Ask any person what is the main newspaper of Nyc and I bet they don’t say “Ny Post” or “Wall Street Journal”. It is a true observation. Now go to Ricketsville, Nebraska and ask if their newspaper aligns with their political views. I bet it does. By your own admission of the LA Times this was a recent shift, so it was true before.
- mmooss 2y ago> Ask any person what is the main newspaper of Nyc and I bet they don’t say “Ny Post” or “Wall Street Journal”. In NYC that's probably so, but only if you force them to pick only one.
- righthand 2y agoThat’s my point, most people in the US naturally tie 1 city to 1 newspaper even though there may be multiple. That newspaper is usually representative of the view points of the majority of the population.
- jhbadger 2y agoOnly because in recent decades there's been a huge dieoff of newspapers. In the 1980s and before it was quite typical for a US city of any size to have multiple newspapers (as NYC still has). You would have at the very least a Democratic-leaning and Republican-leaning one, and you would often find others (for instance evening newspapers which were published later in the day and had more up to date news than the morning papers).
- righthand 2y agoThat is definitely true however irrelevant to my original point. Talking about now, today.
- selfmodruntime 2y agoIt doesn't. The above proposition is demonstrably untrue. Journalists in general are left-leaning.
- mmooss 2y agoIs that still true? Fox, WSJ, Politico, Washington Post etc. - so many are taking on conservativism. Even 'moderate liberals' are becoming 'conservative-lite', to show how open minded they are and bring people together.
- selfmodruntime 2y agoThere is kind of a schism happening where Journos are often very left-leaning but the press owners are a conservative (or flipflopping) elite. You can see this exact effect in Germany: https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/33595.jpeg https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/33595.jpeg But a lot of press supervisory boards are staffed with members of a political party.
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- thrance 2y agoAt this point if you have any commitment to the truth, you will have a "leftist" bias. What, are you going to report on Trump claiming that Ukraine started the war uncritically? That Haitians are eatings pets in Ohio? That vaccines cause autism? C'mon. The Overton window shifted right in 2016, I don't think the paper's line moved much. But no more, the billionaires are here to ensure nothing will get in the way of their sweet, sweet tax cuts [1]. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp9yx7e13ryo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp9yx7e13ryo
- hedora 2y agoI guarantee you the vast majority of people reading this will end up paying more taxes under whatever plan the Republicans pass.
- thrance 2y agoYep, and they still approve of it. Literally brainwashed.
- selfmodruntime 2y ago> At this point if you have any commitment to the truth, you will have a "leftist" bias. This is some grandiose appeal that's shared by both sides of the political coin. People generally assume that reality matches their experience and opinions.
- thrance 2y agoNotice I put leftist in quotes, at this point it's more about how the right is fully divorced from reality than anything related to the left. Reread the examples I gave and defend them, or show me some as egregious as these ones coming from Biden or Harris.
- mmooss 2y agoReality is independent of experience and opinions - that's the point. 'Leftist' opinions match reality better - e.g., climate change, Ukraine, vaccines, crime, etc. etc.