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> You can share your opinion... as long as it's the correct opinion :) That's obviously true of every newspaper in existence. No employee is allowed to publish

> You can share your opinion... as long as it's the correct opinion :) That's obviously true of every newspaper in existence. No employee is allowed to publish any opinion that goes against their employers' wishes. From: https://nypost.com/2024/05/30/media/ex-new-york-times-reporter-says-newspaper-encouraged-insane-cancel-culture/ https://nypost.com/2024/05/30/media/ex-new-york-times-report... Two people were fired at the NYT after publishing a perfectly reasonable op-ed. And from: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10170541/Bari-Weisss-journalist-wife-Nellie-Bowles-reveals-bullied-NY-Times-too.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10170541/Bari-Weiss... "In the book, Bowles tells the stories she wasn’t allowed to tell at the [New York] Times: She writes, for example, about Seattle’s Capitol Hill neighborhood, which transformed into a police-free “autonomous zone,” or CHAZ, Antifa protests, and the experience of attending an anti-racism training called “The Toxic Trends of Whiteness.”"

spondylosaurus 2y ago
Unless I'm misunderstanding, opinion columns aren't exclusively written by employees, though. Sometimes they have guests. I'm also a little skeptical of the NY Post and Daily Mail as sources, considering both are tabloids... do you have any others on hand?
- bluefirebrand 2y ago
  > Unless I'm misunderstanding, opinion columns aren't exclusively written by employees, though. Sometimes they have guests It's important not to mix up "writing" and "publishing" Something might be written by a guest writer but it is absolutely published by the employees of the magazine I am sure that Bezos doesn't really care what anyone writes as long as the things he doesn't want published don't get published.
- jfengel 2y ago
  Opinion pieces are often syndicated. The Washington Post has its own writers group, which has a large stable of writers with a variety of viewpoints. They also run guests and people syndicated from other groups.
  - spondylosaurus 2y ago
    Oh, that's interesting. I assume some of the syndication gets fanned out to smaller local papers?
    - jfengel 2y ago
      Yep. Most of it. You'll see the same people in newspapers across the country. And not just smaller papers. Even the big papers will run articles syndicated by the other papers. You'll see George Will's name pop up everywhere -- he's part of the Washington Post Writer's Group.
- rayiner 2y ago
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- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  > I'm also a little skeptical of the NY Post and Daily Mail as sources, considering both are tabloids And yet both have good content regularly that other publications won’t carry due to their bias. The format of printing doesn’t matter.
  - stonogo 2y ago
    The format of the printing isn't what is being described by the word 'tabloid' and it hasn't been for decades. Anyone who is not in the business of printing a newspaper would normally interpret 'tabloid' to indicate a low-quality sensationalist newspaper. In the UK the industry switched to calling the format itself 'compact' because of this.
- PathOfEclipse 2y ago
  My second link was incorrect, sorry. I thought I had fixed it during editing. I pulled the quote from here: https://www.deseret.com/entertainment/2024/05/19/nellie-bowles-morning-after-the-revolution-free-press/ https://www.deseret.com/entertainment/2024/05/19/nellie-bowl...
vineyardmike 2y ago
> In the book, Bowles tells the stories she wasn’t allowed to tell at the [New York] Times: She writes, for example, about Seattle’s Capitol Hill neighborhood, which transformed into a police-free “autonomous zone She has a book to sell, and she’s using the well-trodden path of outrage on right wing news sites to sell it. Meanwhile her story is actually published in the New York Times. Although I was at CHAZ and i don’t know if this is a good-faith retelling of the situation. For example, not mentioning the violence experienced in Chaz was not due to lack of police but rather right wing counter protesters roaming and causing trouble. https://archive.is/2020.08.07-113728/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/us/defund-police-seattle-protests.html https://archive.is/2020.08.07-113728/https://www.nytimes.com...
- will4274 2y ago
  > not due to lack of police but rather vigilantes roaming and causing trouble. I wonder why the vigilantes thought they could get away with it

spondylosaurus 2y ago

Unless I'm misunderstanding, opinion columns aren't exclusively written by employees, though. Sometimes they have guests. I'm also a little skeptical of the NY Post and Daily Mail as sources, considering both are tabloids... do you have any others on hand?

bluefirebrand 2y ago
> Unless I'm misunderstanding, opinion columns aren't exclusively written by employees, though. Sometimes they have guests It's important not to mix up "writing" and "publishing" Something might be written by a guest writer but it is absolutely published by the employees of the magazine I am sure that Bezos doesn't really care what anyone writes as long as the things he doesn't want published don't get published.
jfengel 2y ago
Opinion pieces are often syndicated. The Washington Post has its own writers group, which has a large stable of writers with a variety of viewpoints. They also run guests and people syndicated from other groups.
- spondylosaurus 2y ago
  Oh, that's interesting. I assume some of the syndication gets fanned out to smaller local papers?
  - jfengel 2y ago
    Yep. Most of it. You'll see the same people in newspapers across the country. And not just smaller papers. Even the big papers will run articles syndicated by the other papers. You'll see George Will's name pop up everywhere -- he's part of the Washington Post Writer's Group.
rayiner 2y ago
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blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
> I'm also a little skeptical of the NY Post and Daily Mail as sources, considering both are tabloids And yet both have good content regularly that other publications won’t carry due to their bias. The format of printing doesn’t matter.
- stonogo 2y ago
  The format of the printing isn't what is being described by the word 'tabloid' and it hasn't been for decades. Anyone who is not in the business of printing a newspaper would normally interpret 'tabloid' to indicate a low-quality sensationalist newspaper. In the UK the industry switched to calling the format itself 'compact' because of this.
PathOfEclipse 2y ago
My second link was incorrect, sorry. I thought I had fixed it during editing. I pulled the quote from here: https://www.deseret.com/entertainment/2024/05/19/nellie-bowles-morning-after-the-revolution-free-press/ https://www.deseret.com/entertainment/2024/05/19/nellie-bowl...

vineyardmike 2y ago

> In the book, Bowles tells the stories she wasn’t allowed to tell at the [New York] Times: She writes, for example, about Seattle’s Capitol Hill neighborhood, which transformed into a police-free “autonomous zone She has a book to sell, and she’s using the well-trodden path of outrage on right wing news sites to sell it. Meanwhile her story is actually published in the New York Times. Although I was at CHAZ and i don’t know if this is a good-faith retelling of the situation. For example, not mentioning the violence experienced in Chaz was not due to lack of police but rather right wing counter protesters roaming and causing trouble. https://archive.is/2020.08.07-113728/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/us/defund-police-seattle-protests.html https://archive.is/2020.08.07-113728/https://www.nytimes.com...

will4274 2y ago
> not due to lack of police but rather vigilantes roaming and causing trouble. I wonder why the vigilantes thought they could get away with it