(replying to myself) It seems like Dave Arnold and Douglas Baldwin even study each others' work -- see the comments here for example: https://www.cookingissue

(replying to myself) It seems like Dave Arnold and Douglas Baldwin even study each others' work -- see the comments here for example: https://www.cookingissues.com/index.html%3Fp=3304.html https://www.cookingissues.com/index.html%3Fp=3304.html Also, wow, the Cooking Issues people might be good at low-temp cooking, but they are not good at Unicode.