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The fusion of the different devices is cool but man it feels odd to be owned by some company, integrated into all aspects of your life idk. My phone runs my li

by ge96 2y ago

The fusion of the different devices is cool but man it feels odd to be owned by some company, integrated into all aspects of your life idk. My phone runs my life so maybe Google owns me technically

nozzlegear 2y ago
What does it mean to be "owned" here? Are you not the one choosing to pay Amazon, or to use your Google phone? You surely get something out of this trade.
- ge96 2y ago
  Yeah it's not just Amazon, there's another thing I saw today (lock screens suggesting products to buy) what should I do/buy today device? edit: another tagent, almost every non-tech person I know (including family) don't know how to use ad-blockers so their lives are influenced by these ads, they just accept them "that's how it is" movies are similar (theater) granted that one at least you may find something interesting but you sit down to watch a movie, there are 30 minutes of trailers before your movie starts plus the company's own ads eg. AMC I get I sound jaded/miserable but I do spend most of my time in tech
  - nozzlegear 2y ago
    > Yeah it's not just Amazon, there's another thing I saw today (lock screens suggesting products to buy) what should I do/buy today device? To paraphrase Tim Cook, just buy an iPhone. We don't have to put up with that kind of stuff because there's already a company out there who cares about the perception of their products and would never put ads on the lock screen. > edit: another tagent, almost every non-tech person I know (including family) don't know how to use ad-blockers so their lives are influenced by these ads, they just accept them "that's how it is" The only solution here is to educate them. Ads continue to be effective because people aren't using ad-blockers, so we need to teach them to seek out and use ad-blockers. > movies are similar (theater) granted that one at least you may find something interesting but you sit down to watch a movie, there are 30 minutes of trailers before your movie starts plus the company's own ads eg. AMC I live in a tiny town with a locally owned movie theater, so I don't really have much experience with this kind of thing. We don't get commercials or ads or anything like that before the movie starts, just the usual 10 minutes of movie trailers and then the movie. It does sound miserable and I don't know what you could do except seek out locally owned theaters, which I'm sure isn't easy in most cities.
    - ge96 2y ago
      I had hoped Linux phones could step in but unpaid open source experience is not great eg. cameras that don't work I suppose I'm not a true believer by not getting in there and helping write the drivers myself (also interesting about proprietary modem blobs)
- mvieira38 2y ago
  By having my phone I get the benefit of keeping my job and life after Google and other big tech companies dominated society to such a degree where it's basically impossible to function offline. By paying Amazon I get the benefit of being able to buy stuff after every other store was undercut to extinction. Hurray
  - nozzlegear 2y ago
    You're being facetious and I can get my fill of that on reddit. You're still making voluntary choices when it comes to both Google and, especially, Amazon and Alexa. But what you (and I, and most people) want is the convenience, even if using "big tech" is less appealing. That's not ownership, that's a choice, a service bought and paid for – unless we're talking about a meta sense of ownership where you've convinced yourself you've been owned and have no alternatives.

by ge96 2y ago

The fusion of the different devices is cool but man it feels odd to be owned by some company, integrated into all aspects of your life idk. My phone runs my life so maybe Google owns me technically

nozzlegear 2y ago

What does it mean to be "owned" here? Are you not the one choosing to pay Amazon, or to use your Google phone? You surely get something out of this trade.

ge96 2y ago
Yeah it's not just Amazon, there's another thing I saw today (lock screens suggesting products to buy) what should I do/buy today device? edit: another tagent, almost every non-tech person I know (including family) don't know how to use ad-blockers so their lives are influenced by these ads, they just accept them "that's how it is" movies are similar (theater) granted that one at least you may find something interesting but you sit down to watch a movie, there are 30 minutes of trailers before your movie starts plus the company's own ads eg. AMC I get I sound jaded/miserable but I do spend most of my time in tech
- nozzlegear 2y ago
  > Yeah it's not just Amazon, there's another thing I saw today (lock screens suggesting products to buy) what should I do/buy today device? To paraphrase Tim Cook, just buy an iPhone. We don't have to put up with that kind of stuff because there's already a company out there who cares about the perception of their products and would never put ads on the lock screen. > edit: another tagent, almost every non-tech person I know (including family) don't know how to use ad-blockers so their lives are influenced by these ads, they just accept them "that's how it is" The only solution here is to educate them. Ads continue to be effective because people aren't using ad-blockers, so we need to teach them to seek out and use ad-blockers. > movies are similar (theater) granted that one at least you may find something interesting but you sit down to watch a movie, there are 30 minutes of trailers before your movie starts plus the company's own ads eg. AMC I live in a tiny town with a locally owned movie theater, so I don't really have much experience with this kind of thing. We don't get commercials or ads or anything like that before the movie starts, just the usual 10 minutes of movie trailers and then the movie. It does sound miserable and I don't know what you could do except seek out locally owned theaters, which I'm sure isn't easy in most cities.
  - ge96 2y ago
    I had hoped Linux phones could step in but unpaid open source experience is not great eg. cameras that don't work I suppose I'm not a true believer by not getting in there and helping write the drivers myself (also interesting about proprietary modem blobs)
mvieira38 2y ago
By having my phone I get the benefit of keeping my job and life after Google and other big tech companies dominated society to such a degree where it's basically impossible to function offline. By paying Amazon I get the benefit of being able to buy stuff after every other store was undercut to extinction. Hurray
- nozzlegear 2y ago
  You're being facetious and I can get my fill of that on reddit. You're still making voluntary choices when it comes to both Google and, especially, Amazon and Alexa. But what you (and I, and most people) want is the convenience, even if using "big tech" is less appealing. That's not ownership, that's a choice, a service bought and paid for – unless we're talking about a meta sense of ownership where you've convinced yourself you've been owned and have no alternatives.