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Nice UI, very light and simple, seems to be running fast even on my netbook. I guess I will start to use my 15 year old hotmail account again, good to finally h

by yaix 14y ago

Nice UI, very light and simple, seems to be running fast even on my netbook. I guess I will start to use my 15 year old hotmail account again, good to finally have an alternative to Gmail. Only one thing: Microsoft, I know its really chiq and en-vogue nowadays to have some element with position:fixed; on every page, but please: don't! There is no reason whatsoever why I would want to see all the time the titlebar. I mean, why would I want to see it? I know I am using Outlook! I know who I am! And it's not very often that I want to access the settings! But, I guess, there is no way around it, position:fixed; is just soooo "modern".

btilly 14y ago
I hate position fixed stuff. I scroll a page, then have to scroll back a few lines because what I want to read next, instead of appearing next, is hidden under a titlebar that I really don't care about.
- dredmorbius 14y ago
  Stylish FTFW. It's a pain maintaining override scripts for multiple sites, but pick your battles and you can make some positive improvements.
maratd 14y ago
> But, I guess, there is no way around it There's a ton of ways you can specify your own CSS for a website, depending on what browser you're using.
jonknee 14y ago
position:fixed is to make it more app like. Outlook on the desktop (and pretty much every other desktop app) works the same way, if you scroll down your inbox the menu bar doesn't go away.
MiguelHudnandez 14y ago
I saw in the video that the "send" button was in the Title bar [1], so I suppose it's important that it be fixed on the screen. [1] at 55 seconds in the video. This link starts a couple seconds before that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDI6Itn7soQ#t=53 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDI6Itn7soQ#t=53
daveasaurus 14y ago
I use both gmail and hotmail (or outlook.com now) and the titlebar in this case is the same as in gmail: it has the user-name of the person logged in, the "options" (gear icon), the send/reply/delete/new-email buttons. And actually with gmail the interface has the google logo and search input above the title-bar taking up an extra ~100 pixels.
- yaix 14y ago
  One important reason why I am glad about Outlook.com as an alternative. Not only is it getting harder and harder to read emails on a Netbook screen (there is almost no space left for the actual message), it is also getting painfully slow. Gmail now loads and runs to much Javascript that my poor little Netbook can't even scroll smoothly anymore. After playing with Outlook.com a bit, it seems much faster than Gmail. Since Marissa Mayer is now at Yahoo, I expect a much improved Y!Mail soon.
chamushian 14y ago
It's not about remind you that you're on Outlook.com. It's about the tools it gives you. i.e. "toolbar". Depending on where you are, the options on the toolbar change, and are really helpful. I really like it.

by yaix 14y ago

btilly 14y ago

I hate position fixed stuff. I scroll a page, then have to scroll back a few lines because what I want to read next, instead of appearing next, is hidden under a titlebar that I really don't care about.

dredmorbius 14y ago
Stylish FTFW. It's a pain maintaining override scripts for multiple sites, but pick your battles and you can make some positive improvements.

maratd 14y ago

> But, I guess, there is no way around it There's a ton of ways you can specify your own CSS for a website, depending on what browser you're using.

jonknee 14y ago

position:fixed is to make it more app like. Outlook on the desktop (and pretty much every other desktop app) works the same way, if you scroll down your inbox the menu bar doesn't go away.

MiguelHudnandez 14y ago

I saw in the video that the "send" button was in the Title bar [1], so I suppose it's important that it be fixed on the screen. [1] at 55 seconds in the video. This link starts a couple seconds before that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDI6Itn7soQ#t=53 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDI6Itn7soQ#t=53

daveasaurus 14y ago

I use both gmail and hotmail (or outlook.com now) and the titlebar in this case is the same as in gmail: it has the user-name of the person logged in, the "options" (gear icon), the send/reply/delete/new-email buttons. And actually with gmail the interface has the google logo and search input above the title-bar taking up an extra ~100 pixels.

yaix 14y ago
One important reason why I am glad about Outlook.com as an alternative. Not only is it getting harder and harder to read emails on a Netbook screen (there is almost no space left for the actual message), it is also getting painfully slow. Gmail now loads and runs to much Javascript that my poor little Netbook can't even scroll smoothly anymore. After playing with Outlook.com a bit, it seems much faster than Gmail. Since Marissa Mayer is now at Yahoo, I expect a much improved Y!Mail soon.

chamushian 14y ago

It's not about remind you that you're on Outlook.com. It's about the tools it gives you. i.e. "toolbar". Depending on where you are, the options on the toolbar change, and are really helpful. I really like it.