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That's an excellent question, and well put. If you want make money, it's best to deal with people who really, really care about making money, to the exclusion

That's an excellent question, and well put. If you want make money, it's best to deal with people who really, really care about making money, to the exclusion of everything else. The problem with dealing with those sort of folks is exactly as you say, and that is because our happiness depends on sharing with others who haven't had the same opportunities we've had. As such, dealing with those people means dealing with people who don't give a damn about anyone who can't further their bottom line, including the masses of forgotten-about poors. I suppose you're going to have a hard time finding such people, because: a) if they were charitable, they'd already be putting their wealth to good use, and b) they're not going to structure their investments in a VC kind of way. I imagine that folks with the money start a VC fund would probably just rant about how being WOKE is a problem with the rest of us, and not their assinine amoral life choices. I would stay far, far away from those fools. If you can find private person who wants to help you succeed without taking ownership of your work, that would be best, but I doubt you will find that under the VC moniker.

asim 2y ago
So basically what you're saying is don't expect more from VC than what it is. Take it at face value and don't try to make it something it's not. I think that makes sense. Then I need to seek out other forms of investing and charitable like work e.g societal impact companies or cooperative funds specifically geared for that purpose. I think some things as a coop would make more sense tbh.
- MrMcCall 2y ago
  Absolutely. If you want to see how charity is done properly, watch the youtube vid (watch?v=490TsUYe5f4) of Pat Morita telling the story about how the legendary comedian Redd Foxx gave him ~$4000 (IIRC) and said that he never wanted to hear about it, but that Morita should pay it forward to someone else some day. That is the way the world could work, instead of how the wealthy have historically treated it, and are still treating it with even more vehemence here in 2025. The joke's on them, however, for their reaping such unhappiness in their lives is their own doing in the face of how the universe works on its most sublime level. They, of course, conflate pleasure with happiness, which are incomparable. Joy and happiness require a compassionate input; nothing else will suffice. And we ALL reap what we sow, for good or ill. It's in the fabric of the human universe. I wish you all peace and happiness and success, my friend.
  - asim 2y ago
    Very succinct and powerful words. In Islam we have something called Zakat which is effectively donating 2.5% of your wealth yearly to the most impoverished people. In that you're not looking for a reward in this life but that it's going to help you fellow man in the struggles that they're in. The reality is any of us could be on the other side, less fortunate than we are. We're truly blessed.
    - MrMcCall 2y ago
      Thanks and indeed! Three months before 9/11 (thank God I got in under the wire, so to speak!) I accepted Islam thanks to a Jewish Sufi housemate. I did so to become a better Christian which has worked out better than I could have ever hoped, or that most people are willing to accept. Oh well, that's their choice to ignore the truth that "Islam" means "peace" as well as "submission (to the Divine Will of Love)". The real shame of the world is that neither the Islamic world, Christian world, nor Jewish world has truly accepted Christ's teachings of the ultimate importance of love in all our worldly affairs. Hypocrisy and willful ignorance (of Love) are but two of the 19 vices of the human heart (nefs), and, boy oh boy, are they playing out belligerently on Earth here in 2025. We Sufis have, however, taken His teachings to heart (pun intended) because the only reason God has given us any messages is to help us be happier by avoiding conflict within and between ourselves. As communal beings, we must work together to succeed, so loving each other helps keep us peaceful and efficient and less brutal to our beautiful Mother Earth. Of course, even a person not involved in religion can choose to love their neighbor, be charitable and kind and manifest the other 17 virtues as well. It's all our choice; it's just that being prayerful can help the "better angels" side of our potential prevail, but seeing how so many Muslims mistreat both other people and even their own folks, it's obvious that most folks aren't praying to be better people. However, some of us are, my dear brother, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, ... , ALL the forms of religion, even atheists and agnostics, so take heart! Love is all that matters in this world, and we are each only responsible for the love we manifest, not how others fail to know and live the truth of Love. Peace be with you. I am at your service.
      - asim 2y ago

asim 2y ago

So basically what you're saying is don't expect more from VC than what it is. Take it at face value and don't try to make it something it's not. I think that makes sense. Then I need to seek out other forms of investing and charitable like work e.g societal impact companies or cooperative funds specifically geared for that purpose. I think some things as a coop would make more sense tbh.

MrMcCall 2y ago
Absolutely. If you want to see how charity is done properly, watch the youtube vid (watch?v=490TsUYe5f4) of Pat Morita telling the story about how the legendary comedian Redd Foxx gave him ~$4000 (IIRC) and said that he never wanted to hear about it, but that Morita should pay it forward to someone else some day. That is the way the world could work, instead of how the wealthy have historically treated it, and are still treating it with even more vehemence here in 2025. The joke's on them, however, for their reaping such unhappiness in their lives is their own doing in the face of how the universe works on its most sublime level. They, of course, conflate pleasure with happiness, which are incomparable. Joy and happiness require a compassionate input; nothing else will suffice. And we ALL reap what we sow, for good or ill. It's in the fabric of the human universe. I wish you all peace and happiness and success, my friend.
- asim 2y ago
  Very succinct and powerful words. In Islam we have something called Zakat which is effectively donating 2.5% of your wealth yearly to the most impoverished people. In that you're not looking for a reward in this life but that it's going to help you fellow man in the struggles that they're in. The reality is any of us could be on the other side, less fortunate than we are. We're truly blessed.
  - MrMcCall 2y ago
    Thanks and indeed! Three months before 9/11 (thank God I got in under the wire, so to speak!) I accepted Islam thanks to a Jewish Sufi housemate. I did so to become a better Christian which has worked out better than I could have ever hoped, or that most people are willing to accept. Oh well, that's their choice to ignore the truth that "Islam" means "peace" as well as "submission (to the Divine Will of Love)". The real shame of the world is that neither the Islamic world, Christian world, nor Jewish world has truly accepted Christ's teachings of the ultimate importance of love in all our worldly affairs. Hypocrisy and willful ignorance (of Love) are but two of the 19 vices of the human heart (nefs), and, boy oh boy, are they playing out belligerently on Earth here in 2025. We Sufis have, however, taken His teachings to heart (pun intended) because the only reason God has given us any messages is to help us be happier by avoiding conflict within and between ourselves. As communal beings, we must work together to succeed, so loving each other helps keep us peaceful and efficient and less brutal to our beautiful Mother Earth. Of course, even a person not involved in religion can choose to love their neighbor, be charitable and kind and manifest the other 17 virtues as well. It's all our choice; it's just that being prayerful can help the "better angels" side of our potential prevail, but seeing how so many Muslims mistreat both other people and even their own folks, it's obvious that most folks aren't praying to be better people. However, some of us are, my dear brother, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, ... , ALL the forms of religion, even atheists and agnostics, so take heart! Love is all that matters in this world, and we are each only responsible for the love we manifest, not how others fail to know and live the truth of Love. Peace be with you. I am at your service.
    - asim 2y ago