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I think people who'd like to bring a piece of old world back have a blind spot for the fact that social networks and their algorithms provide essential service

I think people who'd like to bring a piece of old world back have a blind spot for the fact that social networks and their algorithms provide essential service of content discovery and possibly enabling building up on existing content (comments, reactions). Any attempt to bring back home pages must essentially include a way to discover them. Search engines has been dead for that purpose for more than a decade. If you want to give back autonomy to publishers, your solution must also grant the same autonomy to commenters. You need to enable all people to control their content, whether they are original posters or pre-posters and commenters.

ghaff 2y ago
>You need to enable all people to control their content, whether they are original posters or pre-posters and commenters. Not at all. On my webpage/blog, if I have comments enabled, I absolutely have the right to erase your comment or just not make it visible in the first place.
- scotty79 2y ago
  Nobody is going to comment because of that, among other things. Imagine you published a blog but the hosting provider could delete it any time they want or just not make it visible in the first place. It would be unfair because you are paying money, but readers/commenters of your posts pay with their effort and if they have no guarantee of you honoring your informal obligations they won't be doing that for you.
  - ghaff 2y ago
    It's ironic that you are commenting on this site where moderators will absolutely erase content they feel is inappropriate. I will do the same on my blog--assuming Google hasn't just scrubbed what they consider spam in the first place.
    - scotty79 2y ago
      You might find that ironic or you might try to figure out why they are commenting here not somewhere else. You won't be able to replicate it on a single blog. But any attempt to bring back blogs as a viable choice for others will need to replicate what hn, Facebook, Twitter already do and improve upon it.

ghaff 2y ago

>You need to enable all people to control their content, whether they are original posters or pre-posters and commenters. Not at all. On my webpage/blog, if I have comments enabled, I absolutely have the right to erase your comment or just not make it visible in the first place.

scotty79 2y ago
Nobody is going to comment because of that, among other things. Imagine you published a blog but the hosting provider could delete it any time they want or just not make it visible in the first place. It would be unfair because you are paying money, but readers/commenters of your posts pay with their effort and if they have no guarantee of you honoring your informal obligations they won't be doing that for you.
- ghaff 2y ago
  It's ironic that you are commenting on this site where moderators will absolutely erase content they feel is inappropriate. I will do the same on my blog--assuming Google hasn't just scrubbed what they consider spam in the first place.
  - scotty79 2y ago
    You might find that ironic or you might try to figure out why they are commenting here not somewhere else. You won't be able to replicate it on a single blog. But any attempt to bring back blogs as a viable choice for others will need to replicate what hn, Facebook, Twitter already do and improve upon it.