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Wait, running this once costs "less than a dollar" but up to 2 dollars? So if I used this all day it could cost me 100s of dollars? How is that a good deal whe

Wait, running this once costs "less than a dollar" but up to 2 dollars? So if I used this all day it could cost me 100s of dollars? How is that a good deal when Claude costs 20 dollars per month?

bhouston 2y ago
When I use it heavily for a work day it costs around $25 a day. It will write whole features and debug things and write tests and docs. It is that valuable. I’ve started to run two sessions at once to be more productive. I will be moving it to the cloud soon so I can run dozens of sessions at the same time. Tech like this replaces human developers for the most part so yes it is worth it. $25/day is cheaper than hiring another dev or two. Development teams are coming to an end right now.
- menaerus 2y ago
  Can you say more about the type of work? How big are those repositories? Thanks
  - bhouston 2y ago
    I had it fix a bug recently in the medium sized tanstack mono repo. Transcript here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43178222 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43178222
    - menaerus 2y ago
      I saw that, I was more interested in other examples you might have since you said that you have started to run two sessions at once to be more productive. And this bug doesn't look like such workload.
      - bhouston 2y ago
        The issue is I am working on non-public projects so it is harder to share. But I have a mono-repo that has 8 packages in the packages/* folder and it is all managed by pnpm. I had two sessions going locally in two separate terminal windows in cursor. One was modifying 2 packages to add a feature and another session was modifying another package that was orthogonal to the first two. This isn't really professional - it felt wrong - one shouldn't be adding two separate features at once, but because they were isolated I could check them in separately into Git as two separate commits. It was as if two coders were working on the same checked out code. I need to move this into a cloud service and that is coming soon. Ping me at ben@benhouston3d.com and I can show you some live demos. It works incredibly well.
        menaerus 2y ago
        > This isn't really professional - it felt wrong I don't see anything wrong with that tbh. If it works that's great since this means that you're bound by the compute power you have and not the amount of devs available at that moment. I guess this is what the wet dream is about.
        jasonjmcghee 2y ago
        Working on two features at once is not weird pre-llms too. Though it's a scheduling problem rather than parallelism. CI tests are running for feature A while you work on feature B. If feature A fails, at some point you context switch back and work on it more etc
        menaerus 2y ago
        Of course, business incentive is to have people complete as much stuff as they can per time unit. I don't think I ever had a luck to work in an environment where anyone in the team wouldn't be working on multiple things at the same time. Truth to be told these weren't the traditional scrum or any other bs driven environment. More like high performance teams where pretty much anyone was quite exquisite.
- saberience 2y ago
  Claude already does all those things. Also, Claude is already so good at coding, that anyone could clone your "MyCoder" in less than a day. Which makes sense, given you yourself made it using Claude. Basically, any dev with a small amount of experience can make their own coding software now, without much issue, because the AI tools are so good. So why should anyone use "MyCoder"?
  - bhouston 2y ago
    Does this argument apply to claude-code and aider? Or just tools I write? Does your argument apply to all software libraries/products?
Terretta 2y ago
If using Anthropic professionally with, e.g., Cline, it's easy to spend $1500 a week.
- bhouston 2y ago
  Whoa. That is insane. I will have to try it out to see why it is so much more expensive.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  For a team of 1,500 people? :)

Wait, running this once costs "less than a dollar" but up to 2 dollars? So if I used this all day it could cost me 100s of dollars? How is that a good deal when Claude costs 20 dollars per month?

bhouston 2y ago

When I use it heavily for a work day it costs around $25 a day. It will write whole features and debug things and write tests and docs. It is that valuable. I’ve started to run two sessions at once to be more productive. I will be moving it to the cloud soon so I can run dozens of sessions at the same time. Tech like this replaces human developers for the most part so yes it is worth it. $25/day is cheaper than hiring another dev or two. Development teams are coming to an end right now.

menaerus 2y ago
Can you say more about the type of work? How big are those repositories? Thanks
- bhouston 2y ago
  I had it fix a bug recently in the medium sized tanstack mono repo. Transcript here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43178222 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43178222
  - menaerus 2y ago
    I saw that, I was more interested in other examples you might have since you said that you have started to run two sessions at once to be more productive. And this bug doesn't look like such workload.
    - bhouston 2y ago
      The issue is I am working on non-public projects so it is harder to share. But I have a mono-repo that has 8 packages in the packages/* folder and it is all managed by pnpm. I had two sessions going locally in two separate terminal windows in cursor. One was modifying 2 packages to add a feature and another session was modifying another package that was orthogonal to the first two. This isn't really professional - it felt wrong - one shouldn't be adding two separate features at once, but because they were isolated I could check them in separately into Git as two separate commits. It was as if two coders were working on the same checked out code. I need to move this into a cloud service and that is coming soon. Ping me at ben@benhouston3d.com and I can show you some live demos. It works incredibly well.
      - menaerus 2y ago
        > This isn't really professional - it felt wrong I don't see anything wrong with that tbh. If it works that's great since this means that you're bound by the compute power you have and not the amount of devs available at that moment. I guess this is what the wet dream is about.
        jasonjmcghee 2y ago
        Working on two features at once is not weird pre-llms too. Though it's a scheduling problem rather than parallelism. CI tests are running for feature A while you work on feature B. If feature A fails, at some point you context switch back and work on it more etc
        menaerus 2y ago
        Of course, business incentive is to have people complete as much stuff as they can per time unit. I don't think I ever had a luck to work in an environment where anyone in the team wouldn't be working on multiple things at the same time. Truth to be told these weren't the traditional scrum or any other bs driven environment. More like high performance teams where pretty much anyone was quite exquisite.
saberience 2y ago
Claude already does all those things. Also, Claude is already so good at coding, that anyone could clone your "MyCoder" in less than a day. Which makes sense, given you yourself made it using Claude. Basically, any dev with a small amount of experience can make their own coding software now, without much issue, because the AI tools are so good. So why should anyone use "MyCoder"?
- bhouston 2y ago
  Does this argument apply to claude-code and aider? Or just tools I write? Does your argument apply to all software libraries/products?

Terretta 2y ago

If using Anthropic professionally with, e.g., Cline, it's easy to spend $1500 a week.

bhouston 2y ago
Whoa. That is insane. I will have to try it out to see why it is so much more expensive.
bdangubic 2y ago
For a team of 1,500 people? :)