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>This is so unbelievably lazy. >You even say this in reference to the Eagles, which are a migratory species whose range crosses hemispheres, as if the contiguo

>This is so unbelievably lazy. >You even say this in reference to the Eagles, which are a migratory species whose range crosses hemispheres, as if the contiguous United States is some small aside on that path. And yet, according to Wikipedia... >In the late 20th century it was on the brink of extirpation in the contiguous United States, but measures such as banning the practice of hunting bald eagles and banning the use of the harmful pesticide DDT slowed the decline of their population. Populations have since recovered, and the species' status was upgraded from "endangered" to "threatened" in 1995 and removed from the list altogether in 2007. The irony of calling someone "unbelievably lazy" without maybe checking to see if there was some accuracy to what they were saying is... lol.

willturman 2y ago
It’s unbelievably lazy to trivialize biodiversity loss given the fact that we’re in the midst of the Anthropocene Extinction. We should all be grateful to Canada for being a refuge for so many species we slaughtered with westward expansion. You’ll find a list here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_reintroduction https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_reintroduction Again, Eagles are a migratory species, that they subsisted by eating garbage in small town Alaska having been hunted and DDT’d to extinction in the lower 48 isn’t the feather in your cap you think it is. The point is that we killed all of the eagles in the lower 48 - a huge swath of territory.
- jjulius 2y ago
  >... that they're thriving eating garbage in small town Alaska... This is an "unbelievably lazy" and fundamental misunderstanding of how vast and unpopulated Alaska is. I mean you've even got someone else[1] in this thread with experience highlighting that your assertion is inaccurate. >... and DDT'd to extinction in the lower 48... You completely missed the part of the quote, in my comment, that very clearly states they were never extinct, and were upgraded from "endangered" to "threatened", and then removed from the list entirely in 2007. >The point is that we killed all of the eagles in the lower 48 - a huge swath of territory. It was never true that we killed all of them in the lower 48. Please go read the previously linked Wiki article. [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43180488 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43180488
  - n3storm 2y ago
    We don't fully know (and probably never will) how many genetic diversity has been lost in USA population, subspecies, etc. I know you won't but It feels you are about to thank us humans to make bald eagle population lower so their diseases didn't spread. Living in Europe this flow of thoughs it's been heard so much.
    - jjulius 2y ago
      >We don't fully know (and probably never will) how many genetic diversity has been lost in USA population, subspecies, etc. I completely agree with this statement. >I know you won't but It feels you are about to thank us humans to make bald eagle population lower so their diseases didn't spread. What does this even mean? I simply want an accurate picture of things. Someone made a statement, someone else attacked them for it and insisted they were wrong, yet in point of fact, the initial statement was accurate. More falsehoods were then spread, and I corrected those, too. That's 'bout it. To imply that I feel some certain way about bald eagles or species loss because I just asked for an accurate understanding around what actually happened is a bit of a stretch.
- zombot 2y ago
  It’s unbelievably lazy how everyone is suddenly an expert on bald eagles.

willturman 2y ago

It’s unbelievably lazy to trivialize biodiversity loss given the fact that we’re in the midst of the Anthropocene Extinction. We should all be grateful to Canada for being a refuge for so many species we slaughtered with westward expansion. You’ll find a list here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_reintroduction https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_reintroduction Again, Eagles are a migratory species, that they subsisted by eating garbage in small town Alaska having been hunted and DDT’d to extinction in the lower 48 isn’t the feather in your cap you think it is. The point is that we killed all of the eagles in the lower 48 - a huge swath of territory.

jjulius 2y ago
>... that they're thriving eating garbage in small town Alaska... This is an "unbelievably lazy" and fundamental misunderstanding of how vast and unpopulated Alaska is. I mean you've even got someone else[1] in this thread with experience highlighting that your assertion is inaccurate. >... and DDT'd to extinction in the lower 48... You completely missed the part of the quote, in my comment, that very clearly states they were never extinct, and were upgraded from "endangered" to "threatened", and then removed from the list entirely in 2007. >The point is that we killed all of the eagles in the lower 48 - a huge swath of territory. It was never true that we killed all of them in the lower 48. Please go read the previously linked Wiki article. [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43180488 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43180488
- n3storm 2y ago
  We don't fully know (and probably never will) how many genetic diversity has been lost in USA population, subspecies, etc. I know you won't but It feels you are about to thank us humans to make bald eagle population lower so their diseases didn't spread. Living in Europe this flow of thoughs it's been heard so much.
  - jjulius 2y ago
    >We don't fully know (and probably never will) how many genetic diversity has been lost in USA population, subspecies, etc. I completely agree with this statement. >I know you won't but It feels you are about to thank us humans to make bald eagle population lower so their diseases didn't spread. What does this even mean? I simply want an accurate picture of things. Someone made a statement, someone else attacked them for it and insisted they were wrong, yet in point of fact, the initial statement was accurate. More falsehoods were then spread, and I corrected those, too. That's 'bout it. To imply that I feel some certain way about bald eagles or species loss because I just asked for an accurate understanding around what actually happened is a bit of a stretch.
zombot 2y ago
It’s unbelievably lazy how everyone is suddenly an expert on bald eagles.