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That sounds misleading. The parent comment says all deliveries in Asia are limited to Taiwan. As far as I'm aware, export restrictions are only placed on certai

That sounds misleading. The parent comment says all deliveries in Asia are limited to Taiwan. As far as I'm aware, export restrictions are only placed on certain chips going to China. How do export restrictions prevent Framework from shipping to i.e Japan?

42772827 2y ago
Nothing about the current regime projects stability. Taiwan is a strategic partner and the source of many parts, so it’s essentially the only “safe bet” in Asia. When you’re a company who needs time to adapt to any change in policy (aka all of them) and a company that can’t afford fines for noncompliance (small companies like Framework) your strategy is to be as conservative as possible.
- komali2 2y ago
  Well, they also manufacture in Taiwan. Their office was around the corner from my restaurant here, and their staff would come in frequently. When I pre-ordered a framework 13 AMD I still lived in the USA and was waitlisted. Ages later I needed my shipping address in Taiwan and they had to completely change a bunch of stuff to make it work. Initially they wanted to put me back on a waitlist but I basically begged and they made it happen. So I guess they maintain two different warehousing and logistics operations between the two countries.
Prickle 2y ago
In the case of Japan, it's likely an issue with Japanese regulations. We have a very strict radio law that applies to anything that can produce radio or em waves That includes motherboards, since they can technically emit on those frequencies. From what I have seen, the framework laptop motherboards appear to abide by that law. However, I assume it's just expensive to figure out in the first place.
- imp0cat 2y ago
  LTT video specifically states that they were also able to get the Desktop model to be compliant with the (US, I suppose) EMI laws. He also shows the shielded side of the case (only one side is shielded and that was supposedly enough to pass).

42772827 2y ago

Nothing about the current regime projects stability. Taiwan is a strategic partner and the source of many parts, so it’s essentially the only “safe bet” in Asia. When you’re a company who needs time to adapt to any change in policy (aka all of them) and a company that can’t afford fines for noncompliance (small companies like Framework) your strategy is to be as conservative as possible.

komali2 2y ago
Well, they also manufacture in Taiwan. Their office was around the corner from my restaurant here, and their staff would come in frequently. When I pre-ordered a framework 13 AMD I still lived in the USA and was waitlisted. Ages later I needed my shipping address in Taiwan and they had to completely change a bunch of stuff to make it work. Initially they wanted to put me back on a waitlist but I basically begged and they made it happen. So I guess they maintain two different warehousing and logistics operations between the two countries.

Prickle 2y ago

In the case of Japan, it's likely an issue with Japanese regulations. We have a very strict radio law that applies to anything that can produce radio or em waves That includes motherboards, since they can technically emit on those frequencies. From what I have seen, the framework laptop motherboards appear to abide by that law. However, I assume it's just expensive to figure out in the first place.

imp0cat 2y ago
LTT video specifically states that they were also able to get the Desktop model to be compliant with the (US, I suppose) EMI laws. He also shows the shielded side of the case (only one side is shielded and that was supposedly enough to pass).