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Apple's Dictation System Transcribes the Word 'Racist' as 'Trump'
- wazdra 2y agohttps://archive.ph/2rVhO https://archive.ph/2rVhO
- mirawelner 2y agoPeople resorting to protest via causing inconvenience. Which is probably one of the more effective forms of protest anyways.
- FirmwareBurner 2y ago[flagged]
- Evil_Saint 2y agoIn your mind how should they protest?
- FirmwareBurner 2y ago[flagged]
- digdugdirk 2y agoIt's a valid question though - in class issues, the power structure is capital vs labour. Either you have a lot of money to push for change, or you have enough people pushing for change that money can't sway the popular opinion. Your perspective puts you on the side of capital, though something tells me that you don't command the ability to commit millions of dollars to push for societal change on a whim. So if you were to try to rally others to a cause, what methodology would work for someone like yourself?
- oinkbutton 2y ago[dead]
- isleyaardvark 2y agoInconveniencing people is part and parcel of protesting, including the Civil Rights movement.
- Clubber 2y agoAll those people sitting in the middle of the road blocking work traffic aren't endearing anyone to their cause.
- itishappy 2y agoYou're talking about them. Their goal is not endearment.
- Clubber 2y agoYes but who am I talking about? I just know them as idiots blocking traffic; I have no idea what their cause is. If they were environmentalists, that's doubly stupid because they're causing cars to idle and barf more carbon monoxide in the air because of their actions. If you care about a cause, you should try to convince people not to do that. It's counterproductive on at least 2 levels.
- itishappy 2y agoWho are you talking about? Blocking traffic is a rather common tactic that has been used to protest pollical figures, mask mandates, air traffic control policy, the petroleum industry, you name it. I agree that it's shitty and counterproductive, but it routinely makes the news.
- piva00 2y agoApartheid protesters also didn't try to endear anyone. Why do you think protests need to entertain and endear for a cause? I'd venture you've never actively participated in such acts...
- Clubber 2y agoIf your goal is to enact change, you need the numbers on your side, because ultimately it comes down to polls and votes. If you piss off all the people by sitting in the road blocking traffic, essentially hijacking them and keeping them from getting to work, they will think of your cause and become aggravated, thus reducing the numbers on your side. If your goal is to just aggravate people to make yourself feel better without enacting change, carry on. This seems like pretty common sense stuff. >I'd venture you've never actively participated in such acts... You're right. The best way to convince someone to a side is to use compelling, rational arguments. Not lying to them, not embellishing, not hyperbole, not using emotional arguments. It's certainly not throwing a temper tantrum like a petulant child and prevent working people, who didn't cause your problem by the way, from getting to their shit job so they can put food on the damn table. In fact, if you are a protest leader and you tell people to stand in traffic and one of them gets hit, you should be prosecuted for reckless endangerment and thrown into jail.
- rezaprima 2y agoI would immediately find other alternatives that have better accuracy
- cozzyd 2y agoSounds like a bug where they got it the wrong way around
- acdha 2y agoThis smells like an LLM trying to correct the output of a speech recognition system. I said the word “racist” repeatedly and got this unedited output. You could see it changing the text momentarily after the initial recognition result, and given the way Mamaroneck sounds nothing like either of the other words I’d bet this thing was trained on news stories: “Racist, Trump, Mamaroneck racist Trump Mamaroneck, racist racist racist racist Trump Mamaroneck”
- irusensei 2y agoIt happens during speech to text so its unlikely LLM is involved.
- acdha 2y agoThat’s what I was referring to in the first sentence: you can see the raw text from the speech system change afterwards. Normally that’s things like punctuation and ambiguous words like their/they’re. That secondary process felt like a system which operates on test tokens because “racist” and “Mamaroneck” don’t sound similar at all.
- irusensei 2y agoSilly idiotic activism aside it's concerning that if someone working at Apple managed to slip in such a bold change into the OS then can a malicious group do the same?
- acdha 2y agoThere’s another angle about ML systems: say this is some issue with a model having two terms too close to each other, how would you prove it wasn’t malice or offer assurances that something like that won’t happen again? A lot of our traditional practices around change management and testing are based on a different model.
- xnx 2y agoI'm guessing this is a result of these two concepts not being far from each other in vector space? Like a data-driven version of "miserable failure" Google Bombing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bombing
- Aloisius 2y agoI haven't been able to reproduce this. It correctly transcribes racist as racist.
- acdha 2y agoIt changed last night. I reproduced it repeatedly[1] but then it stopped happening a bit later. At first I thought it was the on-device recognition but behaviour was identical both with and without a network connection. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43179712 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43179712