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Isn't the entire purpose of a CDN like cloudflare to enable bursts like that?

by buckle8017 2y ago

0x457 2y ago
CF can only handle static websites, I suspect the issue the store-backend side not being able to catch up.
- fragmede 2y ago
  I should still be able to click around the pages to browse the products, even if full cart functionality isn't there. Whoever is in charge of that website gets an L. For that matter, it makes me reconsider my hosting of things with Cloudflare. I know nothing about framework's site's configuration, but I know I don't want my site to have a waiting line like that. edit: also, the timer went down and then went back up, so I have thoughts about this enterprise Cloudflare feature.
  - edaemon 2y ago
    It's a feature you have to activate and it's only available to Business/Enterprise sites, you're not at any risk of it showing up unless you want it to. https://developers.cloudflare.com/waiting-room/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/waiting-room/
  - fragmede 2y ago
    until the user logs in, the cart functionality is implanted client side with cookies, and incurs no db hit. guess it's true what they say about hardware vs software. you gotta pick one to be good at, and the other is going to suffer for it, to varying degrees. (inb4 someone mentions Apple. Apple is a hardware company. Their software's alright but it's full of bugs and they're simply not as good as it as they are with hardware.)
    - 0x457 2y ago
      I assume you're going to skip marketing material and go straight to "build my own" or whatever they call it. I assume they didn't expect such influx in site visitors. E-commerce is hard. I worked at a company where we could use 1% of infra at its peak every day of the year except 15-20 days. We knew exactly when floodgates will open, and we still would suffer extra high latency or even downtime.
      - fragmede 2y ago
        you're right but loading the front page at http://frame.work http://frame.work shouldn't incur the "build your own" hit. e-commerce is hard. that's why we get paid so well. hiring the smartest teenager that your nephew knows to setup some bullshit for $15/hr vs hiring a senior SRE at $100+/hr, when it directly leads to lost sales is a choice. the senior part also comes after having failed to scale in production, and learning the lessons there, leading to a site that stays up on the next black Friday/cyber Monday, and stands up to various ddos attacks. (this was before Cloudflare, mind you)
    - spacemanspiff01 2y ago
      How about Nvidia, they have both good hardware/software.
- starkparker 2y ago
  The 12 isn't even up for preorder, but its landing page is gated by Cloudflare all the same.
  - miyuru 2y ago
    site just loaded for me and its just a marketing page. I bet the waiting room makes it worse, since it cannot cache the page due to having the waiting room. also the page has `via2.0 heroku-router' header.

Isn't the entire purpose of a CDN like cloudflare to enable bursts like that?

0x457 2y ago

CF can only handle static websites, I suspect the issue the store-backend side not being able to catch up.

fragmede 2y ago
I should still be able to click around the pages to browse the products, even if full cart functionality isn't there. Whoever is in charge of that website gets an L. For that matter, it makes me reconsider my hosting of things with Cloudflare. I know nothing about framework's site's configuration, but I know I don't want my site to have a waiting line like that. edit: also, the timer went down and then went back up, so I have thoughts about this enterprise Cloudflare feature.
- edaemon 2y ago
  It's a feature you have to activate and it's only available to Business/Enterprise sites, you're not at any risk of it showing up unless you want it to. https://developers.cloudflare.com/waiting-room/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/waiting-room/
- fragmede 2y ago
  until the user logs in, the cart functionality is implanted client side with cookies, and incurs no db hit. guess it's true what they say about hardware vs software. you gotta pick one to be good at, and the other is going to suffer for it, to varying degrees. (inb4 someone mentions Apple. Apple is a hardware company. Their software's alright but it's full of bugs and they're simply not as good as it as they are with hardware.)
  - 0x457 2y ago
    I assume you're going to skip marketing material and go straight to "build my own" or whatever they call it. I assume they didn't expect such influx in site visitors. E-commerce is hard. I worked at a company where we could use 1% of infra at its peak every day of the year except 15-20 days. We knew exactly when floodgates will open, and we still would suffer extra high latency or even downtime.
    - fragmede 2y ago
      you're right but loading the front page at http://frame.work http://frame.work shouldn't incur the "build your own" hit. e-commerce is hard. that's why we get paid so well. hiring the smartest teenager that your nephew knows to setup some bullshit for $15/hr vs hiring a senior SRE at $100+/hr, when it directly leads to lost sales is a choice. the senior part also comes after having failed to scale in production, and learning the lessons there, leading to a site that stays up on the next black Friday/cyber Monday, and stands up to various ddos attacks. (this was before Cloudflare, mind you)
  - spacemanspiff01 2y ago
    How about Nvidia, they have both good hardware/software.
starkparker 2y ago
The 12 isn't even up for preorder, but its landing page is gated by Cloudflare all the same.
- miyuru 2y ago
  site just loaded for me and its just a marketing page. I bet the waiting room makes it worse, since it cannot cache the page due to having the waiting room. also the page has `via2.0 heroku-router' header.