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Came here to post the same thing. Would love to try the application, but I guess not if the developer is deliberately excluding my device (which cannot run the

Came here to post the same thing. Would love to try the application, but I guess not if the developer is deliberately excluding my device (which cannot run the bleeding edge OS).

wpm 2y ago
The developer deliberately chose to write it in Swift 6. Apple is the one who deliberately excluded Swift 6 from your device.
- ryandrake 2y ago
  Yea, too bad :( Everyone involved with macOS and iOS development seems to be (intentionally or unintentionally) keeping us on the hardware treadmill.
  - ForOldHack 2y ago
    Expensive. Keeping us on the expensive hardware treadmill. My guess is that it cannot be listed in the Apple store unless its only for Macs released in the last 11 months.
    - jamil7 2y ago
      This isn’t true you can set the target multiple versions back. The main problem right now is a huge amount of churn in the language, APIs and multiple UI frameworks means everything is a moving target. SwiftUI has only really become useable in the last coupe of versions.
      - ryandrake 2y ago
        Every time Xcode updates, it seems a few more older macOS and iOS versions are removed from the list of "Minimum Deployment Versions". My current Xcode lets me target macOS back to 10.13 (High Sierra, 7 years old) and iOS 12.0 (6 years old). This seems... rather limiting. Like, I'd be leaving a lot of users out in the cold if I were actually releasing apps anymore. And this is Xcode 15.2, on a dev host Mac forever stuck on macOS 13.7. I'm sure newer Mac/Xcode combinations are even more limiting. I used to be a hardcore Apple/Mac guy, but I'm kind of giving up on the ecosystem. Even the dev tools are keeping everyone on the treadmill.
        jamil7 2y ago
        You can keep using an older version of Xcode if you like. I mean, every other tool chain that I can think of does more or less the same thing. There are plenty of reasons to criticise Apple's developer tooling and relations, but I don't see this as being especially different to other platforms
kstrauser 2y ago
In fairness, I don't think you can describe it as bleeding edge when we're 5 months into the annual 12 month upgrade cycle. It's recent, but not exactly an early adapter version at this point.
EasyMark 2y ago
It's a new app, seems logical they might limit the audience at the start, with plans to expand in the future.

Came here to post the same thing. Would love to try the application, but I guess not if the developer is deliberately excluding my device (which cannot run the bleeding edge OS).

wpm 2y ago

The developer deliberately chose to write it in Swift 6. Apple is the one who deliberately excluded Swift 6 from your device.

ryandrake 2y ago
Yea, too bad :( Everyone involved with macOS and iOS development seems to be (intentionally or unintentionally) keeping us on the hardware treadmill.
- ForOldHack 2y ago
  Expensive. Keeping us on the expensive hardware treadmill. My guess is that it cannot be listed in the Apple store unless its only for Macs released in the last 11 months.
  - jamil7 2y ago
    This isn’t true you can set the target multiple versions back. The main problem right now is a huge amount of churn in the language, APIs and multiple UI frameworks means everything is a moving target. SwiftUI has only really become useable in the last coupe of versions.
    - ryandrake 2y ago
      Every time Xcode updates, it seems a few more older macOS and iOS versions are removed from the list of "Minimum Deployment Versions". My current Xcode lets me target macOS back to 10.13 (High Sierra, 7 years old) and iOS 12.0 (6 years old). This seems... rather limiting. Like, I'd be leaving a lot of users out in the cold if I were actually releasing apps anymore. And this is Xcode 15.2, on a dev host Mac forever stuck on macOS 13.7. I'm sure newer Mac/Xcode combinations are even more limiting. I used to be a hardcore Apple/Mac guy, but I'm kind of giving up on the ecosystem. Even the dev tools are keeping everyone on the treadmill.
      - jamil7 2y ago
        You can keep using an older version of Xcode if you like. I mean, every other tool chain that I can think of does more or less the same thing. There are plenty of reasons to criticise Apple's developer tooling and relations, but I don't see this as being especially different to other platforms

kstrauser 2y ago

In fairness, I don't think you can describe it as bleeding edge when we're 5 months into the annual 12 month upgrade cycle. It's recent, but not exactly an early adapter version at this point.

EasyMark 2y ago

It's a new app, seems logical they might limit the audience at the start, with plans to expand in the future.