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You must deep down actually hate yourself or all of humanity to feel such remorse for the impact we have had on nature/dogs. Doesn't sound healthy

chneu 2y ago
Wow what a weird comment to make. Having compassion for another living, feeling, emotional creature means they must hate themselves? Oof what a lame take.
- mrguyorama 2y ago
  >Having compassion for another living, feeling, emotional creature means they must hate themselves? Why is "I regret that we domesticated dogs" "compassion"? It's just the naturalistic fallacy. Wolves still exist. It's just that some of their babies hung out with us and over ten thousand years some of those babies hung out with us even more and we both changed to accommodate our relationship. Why was it wrong to build legitimate companionship with other creatures? Why is it morally wrong to adapt over extremely long time periods?
  - WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
    > It's just the naturalistic fallacy. Wolves still exist. No one here made the argument that because dogs exist, other species don't (or some other similar loss happened). At least, that's what you seem to be pushing back on. In my OP, I made this observation about dogs. Much of the Family's independence and self-determination has been replaced with subservience to us. I also shared how I personally felt about that. I hopefully did all that in a way that preserved desires to make dogs happy. That's pretty much it - except for a sidebar about pets in general.
WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
> You must deep down actually hate yourself or all of humanity I don't. I'm not less for thinking more of something that isn't me. I'm arguably more for embracing more value than I started with. Your assertion seems stark. Do you really feel my perspective is likely fueled by self-loathing? If so, what is it about human nature that led you to that?
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chneu 2y ago

Wow what a weird comment to make. Having compassion for another living, feeling, emotional creature means they must hate themselves? Oof what a lame take.

mrguyorama 2y ago
>Having compassion for another living, feeling, emotional creature means they must hate themselves? Why is "I regret that we domesticated dogs" "compassion"? It's just the naturalistic fallacy. Wolves still exist. It's just that some of their babies hung out with us and over ten thousand years some of those babies hung out with us even more and we both changed to accommodate our relationship. Why was it wrong to build legitimate companionship with other creatures? Why is it morally wrong to adapt over extremely long time periods?
- WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
  > It's just the naturalistic fallacy. Wolves still exist. No one here made the argument that because dogs exist, other species don't (or some other similar loss happened). At least, that's what you seem to be pushing back on. In my OP, I made this observation about dogs. Much of the Family's independence and self-determination has been replaced with subservience to us. I also shared how I personally felt about that. I hopefully did all that in a way that preserved desires to make dogs happy. That's pretty much it - except for a sidebar about pets in general.

WarOnPrivacy 2y ago

> You must deep down actually hate yourself or all of humanity I don't. I'm not less for thinking more of something that isn't me. I'm arguably more for embracing more value than I started with. Your assertion seems stark. Do you really feel my perspective is likely fueled by self-loathing? If so, what is it about human nature that led you to that?

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