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This is poignant in the age of LLMs. What cultural richness are we going to lose as a result? What societal cohesion are we going to lose? What wealth inequalit

by tmpz22 2y ago

This is poignant in the age of LLMs. What cultural richness are we going to lose as a result? What societal cohesion are we going to lose? What wealth inequality are we going to create?

Secretmapper 2y ago
There's actually something interesting here in my opinion, which is that LLMs do not necessarily need to hinder standardization. For example, we have standardized schooling/exams, because that's the proven scalable way we can have for children - essentially a factory spitting out different grade levels/seniority. But LLMs can break this standardization by being able to tailor student needs in a scalable manner. However this takes a huge amount of action, and that's going to be the pain point in the near future as we humans tend towards the easy/greedy paths. Cultural richness - LLMs are also very bad in this regard due to the bias towards majority viewpoints. This reminds me of a recent HN thread [0] discussing how AI is hindering the adoption of new technologies. In some ways, this happens because AI tends to favor mainstream perspectives, making it biased against "new" or "fringe" viewpoints. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047792 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047792
bloomingkales 2y ago
We will only lose our culture if powerful people exert dominance. That's how cultures were withered throughout history, a dominant violent culture comes and pushes its wicked pursuit. It takes decades or centuries to recover your culture after it happens. Shout out to Native Americans, keep trucking, you'll get it all back (truly sorry about all this). People talk about the glory of Rome, but it was utterly vile. They either enslaved or exterminated whoever they conquered. If they had an LLM, they might keep you alive and brainwash you with it. Maybe. Per gpt: "In the military of ancient Rome, decimation (from Latin decimatio 'removal of a tenth') was a form of military discipline in which every tenth man in a group was executed by members of his cohort." This was done to thwart desertion. This is similar to: - PIP. - Email me what you did last week or your fired. - Blanket 10% layoffs in high profit environments - Blanket 10% cuts in general I'm less scared about AI than the culture of dominance utilizing it. We are not the only people that ever lived on planet fucking earth, everything has been done already in some other form of matter. The wicked animals you see now days in power have lived many times over in past histories, we've seen these exact people many times. We simply get hoodwinked when they seduce us with casual talk about space, science, and the world. Decent people begin to think they are just like us. Nope, they are not like us. Sometimes you just have to connect the dots and accept it. History precedes us and owns us.

by tmpz22 2y ago

This is poignant in the age of LLMs. What cultural richness are we going to lose as a result? What societal cohesion are we going to lose? What wealth inequality are we going to create?

Secretmapper 2y ago

There's actually something interesting here in my opinion, which is that LLMs do not necessarily need to hinder standardization. For example, we have standardized schooling/exams, because that's the proven scalable way we can have for children - essentially a factory spitting out different grade levels/seniority. But LLMs can break this standardization by being able to tailor student needs in a scalable manner. However this takes a huge amount of action, and that's going to be the pain point in the near future as we humans tend towards the easy/greedy paths. Cultural richness - LLMs are also very bad in this regard due to the bias towards majority viewpoints. This reminds me of a recent HN thread [0] discussing how AI is hindering the adoption of new technologies. In some ways, this happens because AI tends to favor mainstream perspectives, making it biased against "new" or "fringe" viewpoints. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047792 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047792

bloomingkales 2y ago

We will only lose our culture if powerful people exert dominance. That's how cultures were withered throughout history, a dominant violent culture comes and pushes its wicked pursuit. It takes decades or centuries to recover your culture after it happens. Shout out to Native Americans, keep trucking, you'll get it all back (truly sorry about all this). People talk about the glory of Rome, but it was utterly vile. They either enslaved or exterminated whoever they conquered. If they had an LLM, they might keep you alive and brainwash you with it. Maybe. Per gpt: "In the military of ancient Rome, decimation (from Latin decimatio 'removal of a tenth') was a form of military discipline in which every tenth man in a group was executed by members of his cohort." This was done to thwart desertion. This is similar to: - PIP. - Email me what you did last week or your fired. - Blanket 10% layoffs in high profit environments - Blanket 10% cuts in general I'm less scared about AI than the culture of dominance utilizing it. We are not the only people that ever lived on planet fucking earth, everything has been done already in some other form of matter. The wicked animals you see now days in power have lived many times over in past histories, we've seen these exact people many times. We simply get hoodwinked when they seduce us with casual talk about space, science, and the world. Decent people begin to think they are just like us. Nope, they are not like us. Sometimes you just have to connect the dots and accept it. History precedes us and owns us.