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It’s not just the “easiest thing in the world”, it’s an easy task with a gun pointed to your head. Do you not see this? Even more than that, the threat of firi

by callc 2y ago

It’s not just the “easiest thing in the world”, it’s an easy task with a gun pointed to your head. Do you not see this? Even more than that, the threat of firing by not complying is likely illegal. It’s a false equivalence to say that people who don’t respond to the email (or do some other jump through the hoop activity) are not justified to have their job, gov or private. Maybe they’re on vacation, maybe they’re concerned about the legality of the action, maybe they think it’s a phishing email from some department they don’t recognize, maybe they’re doing classified activity, maybe they’re too engrossed in their actual duties, maybe they’re without internet access, maybe they’re on a submarine for the next 3 months. This email screams incompetence and trying to find a pretense to justify punitive action. It is not indicative of any honest well-meaning changes.

imgabe 2y ago
On vacation: set up auto response Concerned about legality: reply that you are concerned about legality Doing classified activity: reply that your work is classified “Too engrossed”: over 48 hours of not checking email at all? I doubt any government job is that engrossing. On a submarine for 3 months: the only people who this could possibly apply to are in the military, who weren’t subject to this requirement
- MyOutfitIsVague 2y ago
  > On vacation: set up auto response Fired, you didn't respond as asked. > Concerned about legality: reply that you are concerned about legality Fired, they want people who aren't going to ask questions. > Doing classified activity: reply that your work is classified Fired, they don't care about classification. They are violating it anyway, and you not doing it for them is seen as disloyal. > “Too engrossed”: over 48 hours of not checking email at all? I doubt any government job is that engrossing. I don't. A lot of departments do most of their communication through other platforms now anyway, so email is only for interfacing with outsiders. If you do little of that in your daily duty, it's not unreasonable to only check your emails once or twice a week. Why are you bending over backwards to make excuses for this shitshow of an operation? DOGE is an embarrassment, and I'm shocked that people are actually working hard on HN to try to defend its transparent incompetence.
- callc 2y ago
  I sincerely hope you consider adopting a kinder approach to dealing with fellow humans, and dealing with a complex task such as reforming government in a responsible and respectful way. There's no honor is treating people like the way Trump and Musk and DOGE do. While this thread has been flagged, I hope this message gets to you. Be kind. Be thoughtful. There are honorable ways to accomplish the main goals of Trump/Musk without the vitriol.
  - imgabe 2y ago
    I will reserve my compassion for all the citizens who have to deal with a bureaucracy that thinks being expected to answer their email is a violation of their human rights.

by callc 2y ago

imgabe 2y ago

On vacation: set up auto response Concerned about legality: reply that you are concerned about legality Doing classified activity: reply that your work is classified “Too engrossed”: over 48 hours of not checking email at all? I doubt any government job is that engrossing. On a submarine for 3 months: the only people who this could possibly apply to are in the military, who weren’t subject to this requirement

MyOutfitIsVague 2y ago
> On vacation: set up auto response Fired, you didn't respond as asked. > Concerned about legality: reply that you are concerned about legality Fired, they want people who aren't going to ask questions. > Doing classified activity: reply that your work is classified Fired, they don't care about classification. They are violating it anyway, and you not doing it for them is seen as disloyal. > “Too engrossed”: over 48 hours of not checking email at all? I doubt any government job is that engrossing. I don't. A lot of departments do most of their communication through other platforms now anyway, so email is only for interfacing with outsiders. If you do little of that in your daily duty, it's not unreasonable to only check your emails once or twice a week. Why are you bending over backwards to make excuses for this shitshow of an operation? DOGE is an embarrassment, and I'm shocked that people are actually working hard on HN to try to defend its transparent incompetence.
callc 2y ago
I sincerely hope you consider adopting a kinder approach to dealing with fellow humans, and dealing with a complex task such as reforming government in a responsible and respectful way. There's no honor is treating people like the way Trump and Musk and DOGE do. While this thread has been flagged, I hope this message gets to you. Be kind. Be thoughtful. There are honorable ways to accomplish the main goals of Trump/Musk without the vitriol.
- imgabe 2y ago
  I will reserve my compassion for all the citizens who have to deal with a bureaucracy that thinks being expected to answer their email is a violation of their human rights.