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This is incredible. IMO, saving one life justifies every cent invested into OpenAI. How many thousands (or many, many more) will we never know about? This is

This is incredible. IMO, saving one life justifies every cent invested into OpenAI. How many thousands (or many, many more) will we never know about? This is a huge differentiator from Google, where doctors sigh and act aggressively skeptical when you do your own research.

lm28469 2y ago
I wouldn't be so quick at disregarding negative outcomes, side effects, &c.
homebrewer 2y ago
How many lives are destroyed in the process by building more coal power stations? How many will be in the future by accelerating global warming?
- MangoCoffee 2y ago
  >building more coal power stations That doesn't seem to be the case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjJtyRjiOI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjJtyRjiOI
  - jp191919 2y ago
    China is building the most new coal power, by a large margin. They love coal.
aredox 2y ago
You want to save more than one life? Tax the rich.
realslimjd 2y ago
I think doctors who are skeptical of a patient's Google research would also be skeptical about a patient's ChatGPT research.
pavel_lishin 2y ago
> IMO, saving one life justifies every cent invested into OpenAI. How many thousands (or many, many more) will we never know about? What if every cent spent on OpenAI, spent elsewhere, had saved two lives?
Hasu 2y ago
You can save one life for a lot cheaper than the countless billions poured into OpenAI. This might be the least efficient life-saving intervention in history, and that's before calculating for harm caused.
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mupuff1234 2y ago
> saving one life justifies every cent invested into OpenAI That's a really inefficient health care system.
aredox 2y ago
Something something survivorship bias.
Gerardo1 2y ago
It costs UNICEF about $4 for a single malaria vaccine[1]. "Globally in 2023, there were an estimated 263 million malaria cases and 597 000 malaria deaths in 83 countries." [2] " In the 20th century alone, malaria claimed between 150 million and 300 million lives, accounting for 2 to 5 percent of all deaths" [3] There's a widely claimed factoid that Malaria has killed half of all people ever born, and while that might be true, there's plenty of debate you can find about how accurate that claim is. In any case, Malaria is one of, if not the, most deadly infectious disease in human history. We could have wide-spread elimination of malaria transmission now. We could eradicate malaria with further developments. [4] > IMO, saving one life justifies every cent invested into OpenAI. Common reporting says openAI spent $5b last year. That's 1.25b vaccines. The population of Africa is 1.5b, and Africa has the most malaria cases of any continent. So you could make a really, really big impact in that 263m cases/597k deaths per year just by investing in something that already exists. [1] https://www.unicef.org/supply/media/19346/file/Malaria-vaccine-prices-09102023.pdf https://www.unicef.org/supply/media/19346/file/Malaria-vacci... [2] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria [3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215638/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215638/ [4] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria
- FeepingCreature 2y ago
  Note that the marginal malaria vaccine does not save a life. Though there's of course nonlinear benefits from eradicating the disease permanently.
  - Gerardo1 2y ago
    > The vaccine has been shown to significantly reduce malaria, and deadly severe malaria, among young children. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria > Current malaria vaccines reduce uncomplicated malaria by ~40%, severe malaria by ~30%, and all-cause mortality by 13%. https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/php/public-health-strategy/malaria-vaccines.html https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/php/public-health-strategy/malar...

lm28469 2y ago

I wouldn't be so quick at disregarding negative outcomes, side effects, &c.

homebrewer 2y ago

How many lives are destroyed in the process by building more coal power stations? How many will be in the future by accelerating global warming?

MangoCoffee 2y ago
>building more coal power stations That doesn't seem to be the case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjJtyRjiOI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjJtyRjiOI
- jp191919 2y ago
  China is building the most new coal power, by a large margin. They love coal.

aredox 2y ago

You want to save more than one life? Tax the rich.

realslimjd 2y ago

I think doctors who are skeptical of a patient's Google research would also be skeptical about a patient's ChatGPT research.

pavel_lishin 2y ago

> IMO, saving one life justifies every cent invested into OpenAI. How many thousands (or many, many more) will we never know about? What if every cent spent on OpenAI, spent elsewhere, had saved two lives?

Hasu 2y ago

You can save one life for a lot cheaper than the countless billions poured into OpenAI. This might be the least efficient life-saving intervention in history, and that's before calculating for harm caused.

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mupuff1234 2y ago

> saving one life justifies every cent invested into OpenAI That's a really inefficient health care system.

aredox 2y ago

Something something survivorship bias.

Gerardo1 2y ago

It costs UNICEF about $4 for a single malaria vaccine[1]. "Globally in 2023, there were an estimated 263 million malaria cases and 597 000 malaria deaths in 83 countries." [2] " In the 20th century alone, malaria claimed between 150 million and 300 million lives, accounting for 2 to 5 percent of all deaths" [3] There's a widely claimed factoid that Malaria has killed half of all people ever born, and while that might be true, there's plenty of debate you can find about how accurate that claim is. In any case, Malaria is one of, if not the, most deadly infectious disease in human history. We could have wide-spread elimination of malaria transmission now. We could eradicate malaria with further developments. [4] > IMO, saving one life justifies every cent invested into OpenAI. Common reporting says openAI spent $5b last year. That's 1.25b vaccines. The population of Africa is 1.5b, and Africa has the most malaria cases of any continent. So you could make a really, really big impact in that 263m cases/597k deaths per year just by investing in something that already exists. [1] https://www.unicef.org/supply/media/19346/file/Malaria-vaccine-prices-09102023.pdf https://www.unicef.org/supply/media/19346/file/Malaria-vacci... [2] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria [3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215638/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215638/ [4] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria

FeepingCreature 2y ago
Note that the marginal malaria vaccine does not save a life. Though there's of course nonlinear benefits from eradicating the disease permanently.
- Gerardo1 2y ago
  > The vaccine has been shown to significantly reduce malaria, and deadly severe malaria, among young children. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria > Current malaria vaccines reduce uncomplicated malaria by ~40%, severe malaria by ~30%, and all-cause mortality by 13%. https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/php/public-health-strategy/malaria-vaccines.html https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/php/public-health-strategy/malar...