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While I generally agree, the bureaucrats in the US have been somewhat checked by nonprofits who will lobby against this kind of legislative overreach and sue if

While I generally agree, the bureaucrats in the US have been somewhat checked by nonprofits who will lobby against this kind of legislative overreach and sue if the legislation passes. Obviously we have all sorts of other problems, but mostly our bureaucrats and legislators aren’t making backdoors a policy as far as ai’m aware (who knows what the CIA and FBI and NSA are up to, though?). I assume it’s just one of those things that Swedish society is having to grapple with abruptly and that they will adapt the appropriate institutions. I have more faith in Sweden than my own country lately.

diggan 2y ago
> While I generally agree, the bureaucrats in the US have been somewhat checked by nonprofits So does Sweden, and have had strong privacy advocates for a long time. Remember that The Pirate Bay came from Sweden? It spawned a political and ideological movement (Piratbyrån & Copyleft/Kopimi) that still has some presence in Sweden and EU although doesn't seem as strong as it used to be, except for Iceland I think. > I have more faith in Sweden than my own country lately. Not sure what your own country is, but assuming it's US, they're pretty much equal in many ways (but not all obviously) and Sweden basically copy-pastes US political policy for the last decades, for better or worse.
- throwaway894345 2y ago
  Yes, my country is the US. I'm very skeptical that Sweden and the US have similar policy in the general case or in the case of privacy in particular. With respect to privacy specifically, I don't think the US has passed any "no encryption" or "mandatory backdoor" policies (I'm happy to be corrected). In the broader case, I'm of the impression that Swedish policy differs dramatically from US policy with respect to regulation, social safety net, taxation, government-owned enterprises, etc.

diggan 2y ago

> While I generally agree, the bureaucrats in the US have been somewhat checked by nonprofits So does Sweden, and have had strong privacy advocates for a long time. Remember that The Pirate Bay came from Sweden? It spawned a political and ideological movement (Piratbyrån & Copyleft/Kopimi) that still has some presence in Sweden and EU although doesn't seem as strong as it used to be, except for Iceland I think. > I have more faith in Sweden than my own country lately. Not sure what your own country is, but assuming it's US, they're pretty much equal in many ways (but not all obviously) and Sweden basically copy-pastes US political policy for the last decades, for better or worse.

throwaway894345 2y ago
Yes, my country is the US. I'm very skeptical that Sweden and the US have similar policy in the general case or in the case of privacy in particular. With respect to privacy specifically, I don't think the US has passed any "no encryption" or "mandatory backdoor" policies (I'm happy to be corrected). In the broader case, I'm of the impression that Swedish policy differs dramatically from US policy with respect to regulation, social safety net, taxation, government-owned enterprises, etc.