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What is the state of peer to peer messengers with E2EE? Over ten years ago, Bittorrent Inc. (now Rainberry and Resilio) made a serverless chat client (Bleep IIR

• jeroenhd 2y ago
  Peer to peer communications are difficult to combine with mobile phones (at least if you value battery life). There are various messengers out there, but they're incredibly niche and I doubt they'll ever get any decent user bases. Tox is peer to peer and encrypted, but its UX will probably drive away anyone who wants the ease of use of Signal or WhatsApp. I think Matrix experimented with the concept of running a server on-device, and that's one of the few alternative chat systems with decent UIs available, but AFAIK that never made it beyond the proof of concept stage. Veilid Chat, developed by the Cult of the Dead Cow, promises to be an interesting option, but it's currently in beta and has been for a while.
  • genpfault 2y ago
    > Matrix experimented with the concept of running a server on-device https://arewep2pyet.com/ https://arewep2pyet.com/
    • Arathorn 2y ago
      On the Matrix side we still want to get back to working on this; it's just needs dedicated funding.
• undotoday 2y ago
  Jami is supposed to be encrypted, distributed, opensource, and cross platform, though I haven't personally used it: https://jami.net/ https://jami.net/
• timbit42 2y ago
  Session, SimpleX, Jami, Briar are a few.