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Elon, the twitter addict who expects everyone else to be productive and send him a list of recent accomplishments...it's beyond ridiculous. How Americans are a

Elon, the twitter addict who expects everyone else to be productive and send him a list of recent accomplishments...it's beyond ridiculous. How Americans are allowing this circus to go on is completely beyond me. The country is a laughing stock. We could talk about all the way stupid things like this can be gamed but the fact it's evening happening at all is purely breathtaking...

whalesalad 2y ago
What are we to do? At this point the only thing I can do is buy firearms and ammunition, build by bug-in kit, etc.
- bamboozled 2y ago
  Be extremely demanding of all my political representatives, unionizing and protesting. But I get the helplessness too. It's really absolutely unbelievable. I'd say most people are still in denial.
  - throwaway173738 2y ago
    I am extremely demanding but my representatives are totally ignored when this party holds the house and senate. We can’t keep quietly chanting “be reasonable” forever.
    - thechao 2y ago
      Vote in your State election, and make sure your State representative knows you're voting against gerrymandering and for some sort of citizens'-accountable districting policy. It'd be even better to run in any State-level election that is (otherwise) unopposed. A large number of State-level seats went unopposed in 2024. And, yes, I do know that our current predicament is 30 years in the making, and will take years to fix. I've been working with these groups since 2015, banging the drums, trying to explain to Ds & Rs that our govt(s) (at all levels!) are weak, and easily targeted by foreign & domestic actors due to widespread gerrymandering, high incumbency rates, low primary engagement, and first-past-the-post voting. Our naysayers are — as always — far-right groups interested in autocracy and oligarchy. https://www.statenews.org/government-politics/2024-03-04/arnold-schwarzenegger-headlines-rally-for-ohio-redistricting-ballot-initiative https://www.statenews.org/government-politics/2024-03-04/arn...
    - archagon 2y ago
      Representatives can put their physical bodies where the problem is and organize loudly to bring additional bodies along. If the police or military has to break them up, so be it; the media coverage will be iconic. DOGE will find it hard to function effectively if they have to squirm through an angry picket line every day.
  - nemo 2y ago
    The system has been steadily redesigned by authoritarians to remove accountability. I don't call my lawmakers since they all regard me as an enemy - calling any GOP lawmakers is pointless, they aren't accountable to their constituents, they do the party's business not the people's business. Protests are limited to "free speech zones" and almost entirely ignored by mass media, even mass protests are invisible to most. And elections are so heavily manipulated with intimidation at the polling places and large scale disenfranchisement that they don't reflect anything like any popular interest. It's bad, we're working on leaving the country.
    - acdha 2y ago
      You should still call. They do pay attention to constituent call volume and the high response so far is visibly shaking even people in R+20 districts.
  - bryancoxwell 2y ago
    We are doing these things. But we don’t and shouldn’t expect them to just work immediately. It’s a slog, and we’ve got to keep at it.
    - bamboozled 2y ago
      Yes !
- dralley 2y ago
  Call your senators and reps constantly. Show up at town halls.
- smw 2y ago
  Anyone remember that one time that a bad law almost got passed, and most of the popular websites on the internet turned black?
camhart 2y ago
> How Americans are allowing this circus to go on is completely beyond me. The country is a laughing stock. Most European countries have had significant shifts to the right in recent elections. Many European leaders have acknowledged Trump was right regarding a lot of things in his first term, and that Europe would have been better off had they listened to him. The laughing stock on the world's stage is far left politics. Their foothold on Western society has crumbled, and wide scale incompetance and corruption has been exposed. If this wasn't the case, elections wouldn't be abandoning leftist policies to move to the right.
- amarcheschi 2y ago
  >Many European leaders have acknowledged Trump was right regarding a lot of things in his first term, and that Europe would have been better off had they listened to him. Well, no, this didn't happen in many countries and not even being right on a lot of things
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  > Many European leaders have acknowledged Trump was right regarding a lot of things in his first term, and that Europe would have been better off had they listened to him. Who did and what did they say? Cite your sources.
  - pjc50 2y ago
    I bet he means Orban and Putin.
- bamboozled 2y ago
  The laughing stock on the world's stage is far left politics. Their foothold on Western society has crumbled, and wide scale incompetance and corruption has been exposed. I hear this so, so much but I've seen next to know evidence presented. I've lived in Europe under "lefty" governments and it would be pretty hard to say it was a "corrupt" system? All I remember is high taxes, good public infrastructure and healthcare and social benefits. To say it was corrupt is ridiculous.

whalesalad 2y ago

What are we to do? At this point the only thing I can do is buy firearms and ammunition, build by bug-in kit, etc.

bamboozled 2y ago
Be extremely demanding of all my political representatives, unionizing and protesting. But I get the helplessness too. It's really absolutely unbelievable. I'd say most people are still in denial.
- throwaway173738 2y ago
  I am extremely demanding but my representatives are totally ignored when this party holds the house and senate. We can’t keep quietly chanting “be reasonable” forever.
  - thechao 2y ago
    Vote in your State election, and make sure your State representative knows you're voting against gerrymandering and for some sort of citizens'-accountable districting policy. It'd be even better to run in any State-level election that is (otherwise) unopposed. A large number of State-level seats went unopposed in 2024. And, yes, I do know that our current predicament is 30 years in the making, and will take years to fix. I've been working with these groups since 2015, banging the drums, trying to explain to Ds & Rs that our govt(s) (at all levels!) are weak, and easily targeted by foreign & domestic actors due to widespread gerrymandering, high incumbency rates, low primary engagement, and first-past-the-post voting. Our naysayers are — as always — far-right groups interested in autocracy and oligarchy. https://www.statenews.org/government-politics/2024-03-04/arnold-schwarzenegger-headlines-rally-for-ohio-redistricting-ballot-initiative https://www.statenews.org/government-politics/2024-03-04/arn...
  - archagon 2y ago
    Representatives can put their physical bodies where the problem is and organize loudly to bring additional bodies along. If the police or military has to break them up, so be it; the media coverage will be iconic. DOGE will find it hard to function effectively if they have to squirm through an angry picket line every day.
- nemo 2y ago
  The system has been steadily redesigned by authoritarians to remove accountability. I don't call my lawmakers since they all regard me as an enemy - calling any GOP lawmakers is pointless, they aren't accountable to their constituents, they do the party's business not the people's business. Protests are limited to "free speech zones" and almost entirely ignored by mass media, even mass protests are invisible to most. And elections are so heavily manipulated with intimidation at the polling places and large scale disenfranchisement that they don't reflect anything like any popular interest. It's bad, we're working on leaving the country.
  - acdha 2y ago
    You should still call. They do pay attention to constituent call volume and the high response so far is visibly shaking even people in R+20 districts.
- bryancoxwell 2y ago
  We are doing these things. But we don’t and shouldn’t expect them to just work immediately. It’s a slog, and we’ve got to keep at it.
  - bamboozled 2y ago
    Yes !
dralley 2y ago
Call your senators and reps constantly. Show up at town halls.
smw 2y ago
Anyone remember that one time that a bad law almost got passed, and most of the popular websites on the internet turned black?

camhart 2y ago

> How Americans are allowing this circus to go on is completely beyond me. The country is a laughing stock. Most European countries have had significant shifts to the right in recent elections. Many European leaders have acknowledged Trump was right regarding a lot of things in his first term, and that Europe would have been better off had they listened to him. The laughing stock on the world's stage is far left politics. Their foothold on Western society has crumbled, and wide scale incompetance and corruption has been exposed. If this wasn't the case, elections wouldn't be abandoning leftist policies to move to the right.

amarcheschi 2y ago
>Many European leaders have acknowledged Trump was right regarding a lot of things in his first term, and that Europe would have been better off had they listened to him. Well, no, this didn't happen in many countries and not even being right on a lot of things
Cthulhu_ 2y ago
> Many European leaders have acknowledged Trump was right regarding a lot of things in his first term, and that Europe would have been better off had they listened to him. Who did and what did they say? Cite your sources.
- pjc50 2y ago
  I bet he means Orban and Putin.
bamboozled 2y ago
The laughing stock on the world's stage is far left politics. Their foothold on Western society has crumbled, and wide scale incompetance and corruption has been exposed. I hear this so, so much but I've seen next to know evidence presented. I've lived in Europe under "lefty" governments and it would be pretty hard to say it was a "corrupt" system? All I remember is high taxes, good public infrastructure and healthcare and social benefits. To say it was corrupt is ridiculous.