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What a ridiculous comparison! VW didn't even build cars for consumers during the war years.

nntwozz 2y ago
People selling their Teslas afraid of associating with Musk is the topic here and the point I'm making is that the current political climate around this company will be a footnote in history that most people will care little about (if not already). This too shall pass, frankly I think it's a form of cringe virtue signaling. It's also a form of collective punishment, "I won't buy Tesla because I don't like Elon" is certainly a valid opinion, but what about all the workers who have nothing to do with his politics?
- short_sells_poo 2y ago
  > but what about all the workers who have nothing to do with his politics? This is a preposterous argument, I'm sorry. Should I feel sorry for people who enable Musk's antics? Why? They get paid very well to work for him I'm sure. I disagree with Musk's antics and as such I'm not going to give him money. What's so difficult to understand about this? I don't care that in 20 years time he'll be forgotten. We are here and now, and the best way to send him a message that what he is doing is not OK is by hurting his wallet.
  - nntwozz 2y ago
    You're sending a message to Elon about as much as sending a message to Mars Inc by not buying a Snickers bar. Sending "real" messages is more than not buying things from companies or people you don't like and then virtue signaling about it online from the comfort of your armchair. I think it's highfalutin.
    - short_sells_poo 2y ago
      So you are saying I should instead happily give him my money even though I deeply disagree with what he's doing? Let's take your argument ad absurdum: you'd happily give money to a mass murder as long as he was making a product you like?
      - nntwozz 2y ago
        I'm not saying you should do anything, but many people will buy Tesla because they don't see Tesla and Elon as the same thing.
        short_sells_poo 2y ago
        Yes and many people don't. What is your point? Many people are upset with what Elon is doing, that's what is being discussed. Like it or not, Tesla and Elon are the same thing. It's his choice. He wants to be the public face of a company, he can't then selectively choose to shield said company from his antics when they backfire. Nothing stopped Elon from divesting himself of his commercial holdings and announce that he wants to enter politics. Then I, and many others, would have no qualms about buying Tesla cars. Obviously, doing so would've required a degree of personal integrity and humility, which he seems to be lacking.
    - senordevnyc 2y ago
      Why do you care what other people do with their money?
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      - nntwozz 2y ago
        There's a difference in caring about something and pointing something out as meaningless and contrived.
        senordevnyc 2y ago
        Is there? You clearly care enough to argue with strangers about it.
    - LightBug1 2y ago
      How's does that 10% share price collapse, off the back of slumping European sales, fit into your world of messages?
jordanb 2y ago
Yeah the whole "people's car" was actually a Nazi memcoin rug-pull scam. They got millions of Germans to put down deposits and make payments for "future delivery" of their "people's car" but zero were ever delivered during the third reich.

People selling their Teslas afraid of associating with Musk is the topic here and the point I'm making is that the current political climate around this company will be a footnote in history that most people will care little about (if not already). This too shall pass, frankly I think it's a form of cringe virtue signaling. It's also a form of collective punishment, "I won't buy Tesla because I don't like Elon" is certainly a valid opinion, but what about all the workers who have nothing to do with his politics?

short_sells_poo 2y ago
> but what about all the workers who have nothing to do with his politics? This is a preposterous argument, I'm sorry. Should I feel sorry for people who enable Musk's antics? Why? They get paid very well to work for him I'm sure. I disagree with Musk's antics and as such I'm not going to give him money. What's so difficult to understand about this? I don't care that in 20 years time he'll be forgotten. We are here and now, and the best way to send him a message that what he is doing is not OK is by hurting his wallet.
- nntwozz 2y ago
  You're sending a message to Elon about as much as sending a message to Mars Inc by not buying a Snickers bar. Sending "real" messages is more than not buying things from companies or people you don't like and then virtue signaling about it online from the comfort of your armchair. I think it's highfalutin.
  - short_sells_poo 2y ago
    So you are saying I should instead happily give him my money even though I deeply disagree with what he's doing? Let's take your argument ad absurdum: you'd happily give money to a mass murder as long as he was making a product you like?
    - nntwozz 2y ago
      I'm not saying you should do anything, but many people will buy Tesla because they don't see Tesla and Elon as the same thing.
      - short_sells_poo 2y ago
        Yes and many people don't. What is your point? Many people are upset with what Elon is doing, that's what is being discussed. Like it or not, Tesla and Elon are the same thing. It's his choice. He wants to be the public face of a company, he can't then selectively choose to shield said company from his antics when they backfire. Nothing stopped Elon from divesting himself of his commercial holdings and announce that he wants to enter politics. Then I, and many others, would have no qualms about buying Tesla cars. Obviously, doing so would've required a degree of personal integrity and humility, which he seems to be lacking.
  - senordevnyc 2y ago
    Why do you care what other people do with their money?
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    - nntwozz 2y ago
      There's a difference in caring about something and pointing something out as meaningless and contrived.
      - senordevnyc 2y ago
        Is there? You clearly care enough to argue with strangers about it.
  - LightBug1 2y ago
    How's does that 10% share price collapse, off the back of slumping European sales, fit into your world of messages?

jordanb 2y ago

Yeah the whole "people's car" was actually a Nazi memcoin rug-pull scam. They got millions of Germans to put down deposits and make payments for "future delivery" of their "people's car" but zero were ever delivered during the third reich.