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I wish they would reveal the compensation numbers. Like its really easy to get a freelancing job if you charge $7.25/hr. But finding a freelancing opportunities

by itake 2y ago

I wish they would reveal the compensation numbers. Like its really easy to get a freelancing job if you charge $7.25/hr. But finding a freelancing opportunities that match the rates of dev shops ($200+ / hr) is much more challenging.

lzr_mihnea 2y ago
Hey @itake! I plan on writing about that too, around part 3.
Imustaskforhelp 2y ago
I don't want to sound rude but essentially $7.25 freelancing job is really great for developing countries like india , its like 5,056.97 per day , which is crazy nuts. My brother did freelancing before he got his job , in fact he made more money freelancing than with his job , but he personally feels a little saddened I suppose because either he doesn't feel its justified , like a company would generally ask him for work , he would build it and then they would ship it and it would crazy. In fact one of the times , IIRC (I may be wrong) but he said that he made the whole project himself and the client is making 25$ everyday for that project by literally doing nothing , I know you might think 25$ per day are cheap but in India , its the salary that people would go for a great deal at. Othertimes he felt the hectic schedule / sometimes got clients / sometimes didn't , he hated that upwork took a lot of his money the first time a client came. He is enjoying his newly gotten job (he has just graduated) and for now , they aren't making him do any meaningful work except settling in. I don't know , could you even tell me how I can get a freelancing job online for 7.25$ per hour ?
- sponnath 2y ago
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- itake 2y ago
  I've hired people part and full time in developing countries (Malaysia, India, and Vietnam). Westerners will be very skeptical of your skills, so its very important to have a strong portfolio. Random advice: - Talented people tend to select other talented people to work with. So if your portfolio is ugly, because the designer was bad, then that will reflect poorly on you. - Focus on Frontend skills (web and mobile). I think western clients prefer building backend locally, but are more comfortable outsource the frontend. - Have a day job and be busy. I have had much better luck hiring talented devs that already have jobs than devs that are unemployed. - If there is a mobile app in your portfolio, check the mobile app ratings in the client's app store before sharing it. Multiple people shared with me a 2-star finance app, because the very few American users gave it bad reviews due to the poor support for foreign passports or phone numbers. Its a bad look. - Cold out reach to dev shops or other western freelancers. If you're a freelancer or dev shop, when it rains, it pours. Be on their short list when they are drowning in work, but no time to interview/hire, etc. - Don't be too cheap. That's a red flag that you don't understand the industry or are low-skill and desperate for work. I'd ask at least $15/hr, even in lower cost countries.
tonyedgecombe 2y ago
One of the things that surprised me most when I started freelancing was that higher paying clients were much easier to deal with. They seemed to value my work more simply because they were paying more.
- chistev 2y ago
  Cheap clients are the worst.
- msadowski 2y ago
  Same experience here. I also found that if they haggle on the price at the beginning they turn out very difficult to work with.
bilsbie 2y ago
I offered ten hours free once because I was bored and wanted an interesting project to work on. Zero interest.

by itake 2y ago

lzr_mihnea 2y ago

Hey @itake! I plan on writing about that too, around part 3.

Imustaskforhelp 2y ago

I don't want to sound rude but essentially $7.25 freelancing job is really great for developing countries like india , its like 5,056.97 per day , which is crazy nuts. My brother did freelancing before he got his job , in fact he made more money freelancing than with his job , but he personally feels a little saddened I suppose because either he doesn't feel its justified , like a company would generally ask him for work , he would build it and then they would ship it and it would crazy. In fact one of the times , IIRC (I may be wrong) but he said that he made the whole project himself and the client is making 25$ everyday for that project by literally doing nothing , I know you might think 25$ per day are cheap but in India , its the salary that people would go for a great deal at. Othertimes he felt the hectic schedule / sometimes got clients / sometimes didn't , he hated that upwork took a lot of his money the first time a client came. He is enjoying his newly gotten job (he has just graduated) and for now , they aren't making him do any meaningful work except settling in. I don't know , could you even tell me how I can get a freelancing job online for 7.25$ per hour ?

sponnath 2y ago
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itake 2y ago
I've hired people part and full time in developing countries (Malaysia, India, and Vietnam). Westerners will be very skeptical of your skills, so its very important to have a strong portfolio. Random advice: - Talented people tend to select other talented people to work with. So if your portfolio is ugly, because the designer was bad, then that will reflect poorly on you. - Focus on Frontend skills (web and mobile). I think western clients prefer building backend locally, but are more comfortable outsource the frontend. - Have a day job and be busy. I have had much better luck hiring talented devs that already have jobs than devs that are unemployed. - If there is a mobile app in your portfolio, check the mobile app ratings in the client's app store before sharing it. Multiple people shared with me a 2-star finance app, because the very few American users gave it bad reviews due to the poor support for foreign passports or phone numbers. Its a bad look. - Cold out reach to dev shops or other western freelancers. If you're a freelancer or dev shop, when it rains, it pours. Be on their short list when they are drowning in work, but no time to interview/hire, etc. - Don't be too cheap. That's a red flag that you don't understand the industry or are low-skill and desperate for work. I'd ask at least $15/hr, even in lower cost countries.

tonyedgecombe 2y ago

One of the things that surprised me most when I started freelancing was that higher paying clients were much easier to deal with. They seemed to value my work more simply because they were paying more.

chistev 2y ago
Cheap clients are the worst.
msadowski 2y ago
Same experience here. I also found that if they haggle on the price at the beginning they turn out very difficult to work with.

bilsbie 2y ago

I offered ten hours free once because I was bored and wanted an interesting project to work on. Zero interest.