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Are you sure that any change to address the recent issues would always result in those two outcomes? Also, Elon Musk is the richest elite in the world so it s

by Braxton1980 2y ago

Are you sure that any change to address the recent issues would always result in those two outcomes? Also, Elon Musk is the richest elite in the world so it seems we already are at the bottom of the problem.

rayiner 2y ago
But the power Musk holds isn’t the result of him being rich, it’s because he has a populist cult of personality. The candidate who spent twice the money lost the election. Musk has power because he got on stage with Trump in Pennsylvania promising to fire all the federal workers.
- turtlesdown11 2y ago
  Absolutely incorrect. Musk holds power because he spent $290m on the election boosting the winning candidate.
  - rayiner 2y ago
    But the money didn’t win the election.
    - turtlesdown11 2y ago
      source?
- unclebucknasty 2y ago
  >Musk has power because he got on stage with Trump in Pennsylvania promising to fire all the federal workers. From Gallup [0]—top issues among all registered voters: The economy Democracy in the U.S. Terrorism and national security Types of Supreme Court justices candidates would pick Immigration Education Healthcare Gun policy Abortion ^^Taxes Crime Distribution of income and wealth in the U.S. ^^The federal budget deficit Foreign affairs Situation in Middle East between Israelis and Palestinians Energy policy Relations with Russia Race relations Relations with China Trade with other nations Climate change Transgender rights ^^Items under which "firing all federal workers" could conceivably fit, and that's a massive stretch. Still, even with that generosity granted, they're 10th and 13th on the list. [0] https://news.gallup.com/poll/651719/economy-important-issue-2024-presidential-vote.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/651719/economy-important-issue-...
  - rayiner 2y ago
    If you look at polling, Trump voters prioritized democracy slightly more highly than Harris voters. The permanent government is a democracy issue.
    - unclebucknasty 2y ago
      Not even Trump or Musk is making this claim as the driving purpose of DOGE.

rayiner 2y ago

But the power Musk holds isn’t the result of him being rich, it’s because he has a populist cult of personality. The candidate who spent twice the money lost the election. Musk has power because he got on stage with Trump in Pennsylvania promising to fire all the federal workers.

turtlesdown11 2y ago
Absolutely incorrect. Musk holds power because he spent $290m on the election boosting the winning candidate.
- rayiner 2y ago
  But the money didn’t win the election.
  - turtlesdown11 2y ago
    source?
unclebucknasty 2y ago
>Musk has power because he got on stage with Trump in Pennsylvania promising to fire all the federal workers. From Gallup [0]—top issues among all registered voters: The economy Democracy in the U.S. Terrorism and national security Types of Supreme Court justices candidates would pick Immigration Education Healthcare Gun policy Abortion ^^Taxes Crime Distribution of income and wealth in the U.S. ^^The federal budget deficit Foreign affairs Situation in Middle East between Israelis and Palestinians Energy policy Relations with Russia Race relations Relations with China Trade with other nations Climate change Transgender rights ^^Items under which "firing all federal workers" could conceivably fit, and that's a massive stretch. Still, even with that generosity granted, they're 10th and 13th on the list. [0] https://news.gallup.com/poll/651719/economy-important-issue-2024-presidential-vote.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/651719/economy-important-issue-...
- rayiner 2y ago
  If you look at polling, Trump voters prioritized democracy slightly more highly than Harris voters. The permanent government is a democracy issue.
  - unclebucknasty 2y ago
    Not even Trump or Musk is making this claim as the driving purpose of DOGE.