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Except it’s not really democracy. You have gerrymandered districts. You elect a leader not by who gets the most votes, but who wins a system that was designed f

Except it’s not really democracy. You have gerrymandered districts. You elect a leader not by who gets the most votes, but who wins a system that was designed for the benefit of white slave owners. And of course, who really believes the election results when you have Trump saying that Musk rigged some voting machines in his favor. Face it, the US no longer creates its government from the collective will of its citizens. They’ve replaced politicians with corporate backers for the actual corporations themselves.

bruce511 2y ago
I buy the gerrymandering concept at the congressional level. But Trump won the popular vote. He increased his numbers in 90% of counties. He grew across all demographics. This was not a structural failure. It was very clearly a country-wide mandate.
- toast0 2y ago
  He clearly won, but a narrow victory is not a mandate. 1984 Reagan's victory was a mandate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_United_States_presidential_election https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_United_States_president...
- watwut 2y ago
  Small victory is not country wife mandate. And also, frankly, I can't imagine you are conservatives saying the same if Hareis was in power.
- kelnos 2y ago
  Ugh, please stop calling this a "mandate". You don't have a mandate when you weren't even able to secure 50% of the total votes, and your main opponent only trailed you by a percentage point and a half. I think if Biden had decided up-front that he wouldn't seek re-election, and the Democrats had been able to field a real primary, Trump may not have won. Instead we had an old man making blunder after blunder during his campaign, followed by a not-all-that-popular replacement that no one selected through the primary process, who only had a few short months to put a campaign together. Frankly I think it's impressive Harris did as well as she did. "Mandate"... oh, please.

bruce511 2y ago

I buy the gerrymandering concept at the congressional level. But Trump won the popular vote. He increased his numbers in 90% of counties. He grew across all demographics. This was not a structural failure. It was very clearly a country-wide mandate.

toast0 2y ago
He clearly won, but a narrow victory is not a mandate. 1984 Reagan's victory was a mandate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_United_States_presidential_election https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_United_States_president...
watwut 2y ago
Small victory is not country wife mandate. And also, frankly, I can't imagine you are conservatives saying the same if Hareis was in power.
kelnos 2y ago
Ugh, please stop calling this a "mandate". You don't have a mandate when you weren't even able to secure 50% of the total votes, and your main opponent only trailed you by a percentage point and a half. I think if Biden had decided up-front that he wouldn't seek re-election, and the Democrats had been able to field a real primary, Trump may not have won. Instead we had an old man making blunder after blunder during his campaign, followed by a not-all-that-popular replacement that no one selected through the primary process, who only had a few short months to put a campaign together. Frankly I think it's impressive Harris did as well as she did. "Mandate"... oh, please.