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I do understand wanting to avoid “politics” (however that gets defined) on HN but in this particular moment it feels like a real loss. I’ve read articles about

I do understand wanting to avoid “politics” (however that gets defined) on HN but in this particular moment it feels like a real loss. I’ve read articles about how DOGE might have misinterpreted data because of COBOL, just today I saw the announcement of all these “5 things” emails being plugged into AI… there are a lot of people on HN well positioned to comment knowledgably on this stuff but the threads get flagged very quickly.

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IAmGraydon 2y ago
Do a search for "doge" or "musk". There are plenty threads that don't get flagged.
pyuser583 2y ago
It’s all so speculative. I was contacted by a reporter asking about the possible security implications of the Doge stuff. All I could think of was the false/misleading claims about DNS traffic on Trumps server back in 2016. I said something like, “if the humans in charge grant access to another human, a secure system would grant the new human access.” They didn’t use my quote.
- afavour 2y ago
  > It’s all so speculative. Yes and no. DOGE already set up a site that gave the public write access. There are stories to be told already.
  - pyuser583 2y ago
    Sorry I don’t know about this. How can you know what permissions a web app has? I’m a little flustered by all this talk of “read-access” and “write-access” in reference to DOGE. Reading and writing what? If these transactions systems are well designed, everything is written. They should be using special “write-once, read-many” media ensure everything is immutably recorded. Even if it’s just a conventional SQL database and not some kind of transaction ledger, you can recreate the state of the DB by rerunning all SQL commands, which should be recorded. What does “write” mean exactly here?
    - Jtsummers 2y ago
      > Sorry I don’t know about this. How can you know what permissions a web app has? https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-gov-website-2/ https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-...
Sparyjerry 2y ago
The cobol thing was just some random guys tweet, that had a wrong premise to start with as the first of all dates were stored as strings not dates, and then later proven further wrong when they released the number of each person in each age bracket. These things are too politicized to get much value, hell people even think Elon waving to the crowd was a nazi salute. In all its all speculation except for the details posted on doge.gov anyways. Unfortunately since Elon's trump endorsement people are mostly just one side picking their favorite or picking on their least favorite.
- computerthings 2y ago
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- afavour 2y ago
  > hell people even think Elon waving to the crowd was a nazi salute. Because it was. To describe what he did as a “wave” is simply not plausible.

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IAmGraydon 2y ago

Do a search for "doge" or "musk". There are plenty threads that don't get flagged.

pyuser583 2y ago

It’s all so speculative. I was contacted by a reporter asking about the possible security implications of the Doge stuff. All I could think of was the false/misleading claims about DNS traffic on Trumps server back in 2016. I said something like, “if the humans in charge grant access to another human, a secure system would grant the new human access.” They didn’t use my quote.

afavour 2y ago
> It’s all so speculative. Yes and no. DOGE already set up a site that gave the public write access. There are stories to be told already.
- pyuser583 2y ago
  Sorry I don’t know about this. How can you know what permissions a web app has? I’m a little flustered by all this talk of “read-access” and “write-access” in reference to DOGE. Reading and writing what? If these transactions systems are well designed, everything is written. They should be using special “write-once, read-many” media ensure everything is immutably recorded. Even if it’s just a conventional SQL database and not some kind of transaction ledger, you can recreate the state of the DB by rerunning all SQL commands, which should be recorded. What does “write” mean exactly here?
  - Jtsummers 2y ago
    > Sorry I don’t know about this. How can you know what permissions a web app has? https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-gov-website-2/ https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-...

Sparyjerry 2y ago

The cobol thing was just some random guys tweet, that had a wrong premise to start with as the first of all dates were stored as strings not dates, and then later proven further wrong when they released the number of each person in each age bracket. These things are too politicized to get much value, hell people even think Elon waving to the crowd was a nazi salute. In all its all speculation except for the details posted on doge.gov anyways. Unfortunately since Elon's trump endorsement people are mostly just one side picking their favorite or picking on their least favorite.

computerthings 2y ago
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afavour 2y ago
> hell people even think Elon waving to the crowd was a nazi salute. Because it was. To describe what he did as a “wave” is simply not plausible.