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The federal govt can’t be the majority of technological innovation. If we’re lucky this vacuum will be filled by an even larger private sector innovation hub l
by devmunchies 2y ago
The federal govt can’t be the majority of technological innovation.
If we’re lucky this vacuum will be filled by an even larger private sector innovation hub like Xerox park and bell labs.
- only-one1701 2y agoOh my god dude, who do you think is the major subsidizer of private industry research?
- devmunchies 2y agoI didn’t say I was in favor of axing all govt positions and grants, dude.
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- malcolmgreaves 2y agoIndeed you did.
- pjc50 2y agoYou didn't say that, but you're supporting the guys who did.
- devmunchies 2y agoThis is the first thread ive commented on since trump was inaugurated and it’s sad to see HN has turned into Reddit. emotionally charged, bad faith assumptions at the smallest whiff of independent thought.
- jmcgough 2y agoPrivate sector research basically does not exist anymore, especially basic science research. A lot of truly revolutionary stuff starts in academia and spins into tech and biotech startups.
- rossjudson 2y agoJust like in healthcare, right? Where we are lucky the private industry has created...oh wait, most expensive healthcare system in the world, doesn't cover a third of the population, doesn't even crack the top ten in outcomes.
- devmunchies 2y agoThe regulators ain’t regulating. That’s their main job, not innovation.
- pixl97 2y agoUS innovation is looking at how it can extract as much profit as it can in the next quarter.
- panzagl 2y agoYou do realize PARC and Bell Labs are long gone, right?
- devmunchies 2y agoBut the memories will live on in our hearts.
- malfist 2y agoWhy do you think the vacuum won't be filled by other countries willing to fund their scientists? This is after all the same reasoning used to give tax breaks to get a factory to setup in town
- kergonath 2y agoIt is not a zero-sum game. Less spending in the US does not magically becomes more spending elsewhere. It’s actually likely to become less spending in several countries, as military spending increases because of geopolitical instability.
- stonogo 2y agoEvery single American cellular operator was part of this program.
- 20after4 2y agoNot sure how you have such optimism. It will take a lot more than luck to rebuild what's being destroyed and we don't have what it takes. [edit: Found a less condescending way to make my point.]
- kragen 2y agoIt will be largely filled by Chinese universities and Chinese companies working together. Non-Chinese researchers will probably have to go to Europe.
- amluto 2y agoVarious institutions that, among other things, receive federal grant money, make up an enormous amount of technological innovation. The federal government deciding it doesn’t want to pay out money that it has already contracted to pay is not going to help these institutions succeed at their innovation mission. I, personally, believe that much of the current financial structure of the universities is broken, and the structure of the “indirect costs” causes strongly misaligned incentives, but arbitrarily and massively lowering the rates on zero notice is not the solution. I’ll note that no one involve in DOGE seems to have an actual proposal to improve the situation — they just seem to want to shut everything off.
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- freen 2y agoThey say on the internet, a direct result of DARPA funding.
- pjc50 2y agoIt's going to be Huawei.
- hayst4ck 2y ago> If we’re lucky this vacuum will be filled by an even larger private sector innovation hub like Xerox park and bell labs. Why would they do that when stock buybacks are more profitable for shareholders?