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I don't know why people take UB seriously. He never provided proof of any work experience - he claims to have worked for just a single company that... never shi

I don't know why people take UB seriously. He never provided proof of any work experience - he claims to have worked for just a single company that... never shipped any code into production. Even his code examples on GitHub are just snippets, not even a to-do app (well, I think that his style of "just one thing per function" works as a self-fulfilling prophecy). Maybe people like him are the reason why we have to do leet code tests (I don't believe he would be capable of solving even an easy problem).

rester324 2y ago
Uncle Bob is one of the core contributors to Fitnesse, which had moderate success in the Java popularity era back in the day. Also, you do understand that people worked as software engineers even before Github became popular, or open sourcing to begin with, do you? So if someone is 60+ year old, chances are that most of his work has never been open sourced, and his work was targeting use cases, platforms, services which have no utility in this age any more. Which have all nothing to do with how good a software engineer someone is. And finally, do you have any proof that he never shipped any code into production?
- zabzonk 2y ago
  > So if someone is 60+ year old, chances are that most of his work has never been open source Somewhat ageist? I'm 72 and have produced a number of FOSS tools.
  - sebmellen 2y ago
    Truly. I know plenty of people in their 60s and 70s who use Git and are still very sharp programmers.
    - kragen 2y ago
      Using Git is unrelated to whether the software you write is proprietary or open-source.
- fourside 2y ago
  The criticism was that UB worked at a company that allegedly didn’t ship code to production, not that he doesn’t have a corpus of open source projects on GitHub.
- imjonse 2y ago
  > So if someone is 60+ year old, chances are that most of his work has never been open sourced, John Ousterhout is 70 years old and one of the open source pioneers. We don't know what Uncle Bob shipped or did not ship but his friendly opponent in this discussion definitley did ship high profile projects.
  - unclebobmartin 2y ago
    I'm 72. As for what I have shipped over the half-century of my career, you can read all about that in part two of my book We, Programmers. Suffice it to say I've shipped a LOT of code.
- ahoka 2y ago
  Do you mean commits to the project like this crap: https://github.com/unclebob/fitnesse/commit/d6034080a04c740c6b628c2ce970d059d448c5e0?diff=split&w=0 https://github.com/unclebob/fitnesse/commit/d6034080a04c740c... This level of pointless obfuscation would not survive a code review at any sane dev team.
  - frozenlettuce 2y ago
    It's the kind of commit that you get from someone that wants to look productive but is just renaming variables in their IDE.

rester324 2y ago

Uncle Bob is one of the core contributors to Fitnesse, which had moderate success in the Java popularity era back in the day. Also, you do understand that people worked as software engineers even before Github became popular, or open sourcing to begin with, do you? So if someone is 60+ year old, chances are that most of his work has never been open sourced, and his work was targeting use cases, platforms, services which have no utility in this age any more. Which have all nothing to do with how good a software engineer someone is. And finally, do you have any proof that he never shipped any code into production?

zabzonk 2y ago
> So if someone is 60+ year old, chances are that most of his work has never been open source Somewhat ageist? I'm 72 and have produced a number of FOSS tools.
- sebmellen 2y ago
  Truly. I know plenty of people in their 60s and 70s who use Git and are still very sharp programmers.
  - kragen 2y ago
    Using Git is unrelated to whether the software you write is proprietary or open-source.
fourside 2y ago
The criticism was that UB worked at a company that allegedly didn’t ship code to production, not that he doesn’t have a corpus of open source projects on GitHub.
imjonse 2y ago
> So if someone is 60+ year old, chances are that most of his work has never been open sourced, John Ousterhout is 70 years old and one of the open source pioneers. We don't know what Uncle Bob shipped or did not ship but his friendly opponent in this discussion definitley did ship high profile projects.
- unclebobmartin 2y ago
  I'm 72. As for what I have shipped over the half-century of my career, you can read all about that in part two of my book We, Programmers. Suffice it to say I've shipped a LOT of code.
ahoka 2y ago
Do you mean commits to the project like this crap: https://github.com/unclebob/fitnesse/commit/d6034080a04c740c6b628c2ce970d059d448c5e0?diff=split&w=0 https://github.com/unclebob/fitnesse/commit/d6034080a04c740c... This level of pointless obfuscation would not survive a code review at any sane dev team.
- frozenlettuce 2y ago
  It's the kind of commit that you get from someone that wants to look productive but is just renaming variables in their IDE.