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Right, we don't know "what if". But we do know what did happen, it is abundantly clear the effect Jobs had as a leader, and the effect Musk has had on his compa

Right, we don't know "what if". But we do know what did happen, it is abundantly clear the effect Jobs had as a leader, and the effect Musk has had on his companies. We also know what has happened to Apple since Tim Cook took over. Cook is a competent manager, but he's no Steve Jobs.

ceejayoz 2y ago
> But we do know what did happen Again, that's "nearly bankrupted two more companies over the next decade". Adversity is frequently good for learning. > We also know what has happened to Apple since Tim Cook took over. Dominance?
- WalterBright 2y ago
  Musk takes enormous risks with his companies, and that's a big reason why they are so successful. I talked to a professional race car driver once. He said if you don't walk back to the pit holding the steering wheel once in a while, you are never going to be a winner. > Dominance? I did say Cook was competent. But where's the never-ending stream of major innovations under Jobs? That all came to a stop. P.S. I own Tesla and SpaceX stock.
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    > Musk takes enormous risks with his companies, and that's a big reason why they are so successful. But it's a big, you know, risk. There's a chance some of this blows up in his face, and as a huge space exploration fan, I dread that possibility. I love watching SpaceX launches; I don't love seeing him tether the company to a partisan political cause. > But where's the never-ending stream of major innovations under Jobs? That all came to a stop. Did it? Apple Silicon? Airpods? (I also tend to see Apple's supply chain work as quite innovative, and critical to Jobs's successes.) > P.S. I own Tesla and SpaceX stock. I own Tesla shares (and would love some SpaceX ones). I'd really rather not see them go up in flames.
    - WalterBright 2y ago
      Airpods? I have a pair, and they're quite nice, and I like them. But they aren't on the level of Job's innovations.

ceejayoz 2y ago

> But we do know what did happen Again, that's "nearly bankrupted two more companies over the next decade". Adversity is frequently good for learning. > We also know what has happened to Apple since Tim Cook took over. Dominance?

WalterBright 2y ago
Musk takes enormous risks with his companies, and that's a big reason why they are so successful. I talked to a professional race car driver once. He said if you don't walk back to the pit holding the steering wheel once in a while, you are never going to be a winner. > Dominance? I did say Cook was competent. But where's the never-ending stream of major innovations under Jobs? That all came to a stop. P.S. I own Tesla and SpaceX stock.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  > Musk takes enormous risks with his companies, and that's a big reason why they are so successful. But it's a big, you know, risk. There's a chance some of this blows up in his face, and as a huge space exploration fan, I dread that possibility. I love watching SpaceX launches; I don't love seeing him tether the company to a partisan political cause. > But where's the never-ending stream of major innovations under Jobs? That all came to a stop. Did it? Apple Silicon? Airpods? (I also tend to see Apple's supply chain work as quite innovative, and critical to Jobs's successes.) > P.S. I own Tesla and SpaceX stock. I own Tesla shares (and would love some SpaceX ones). I'd really rather not see them go up in flames.
  - WalterBright 2y ago
    Airpods? I have a pair, and they're quite nice, and I like them. But they aren't on the level of Job's innovations.