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There's no way 10M LoC can be improved without taking a loss in the balance sheet. No Way. Because in order to do that, you need to stop writing new code effe
by edwinnathaniel 14y ago
There's no way 10M LoC can be improved without taking a loss in the balance sheet.
No Way.
Because in order to do that, you need to stop writing new code effectively and just heads down and improve things. The thing is, if the codebase is tightly coupled, you've got tons of work to do as typically you can't improve one thing without changing the other. In the absence of unit-testing, nobody has the guts to refactor the code without high-risk of breaking the product.
I haven't even mentioned the cultural (human) issues that need to be fixed/changed as well.
So people truck forward, like in any software development shops :).
Speaking of which, thanks for sharing your insight working for Intuit. The article never mentioned the actual quality of code, but instead focusing on things that he improved :) (not a small feat, but probably don't improve the quality of the code).
- anthonyb 14y agoThe cultural issues are usually the largest issue (qv. Conway's Law). You don't need to stop writing new code, but you do need to stop adding crap code (or at least stop adding it faster than you can clean it up). It's why I'm a big fan of code ownership as a negative reinforcement tool. Despite it being a really bad idea, it does tend to rein in the cowboys - because they're too busy fixing the bugs in their code to add new ones.
- nahname 14y agoAbsolutely they have to take a loss to fix it, but they are already suffering from a massive lose to software engineering productivity and are unlikely to retain any talent. This is technical debt at it worst.
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