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I wanted a multiverse with unbound possibilities. Why? Her's a recap of Max Tegmark's ideas: Level I Multiverse (Spatial Infinity): If the universe is infinit
by rlupi 2y ago
I wanted a multiverse with unbound possibilities.
Why? Her's a recap of Max Tegmark's ideas:
Level I Multiverse (Spatial Infinity): If the universe is infinite and homogeneous on large scales, then everything that can happen will happen, infinitely many times. This is relatively straightforward mathematically, relying mostly on probability and basic assumptions about the distribution of matter.
Level II Multiverse (Bubble Universes/Eternal Inflation): This arises from inflationary cosmology. Different regions of space can undergo inflation at different rates, leading to "bubble universes" with potentially different physical constants and laws. This involves:
Quantum Field Theory (to describe the inflaton field driving inflation)
General Relativity (to describe the expansion of space)
Stochastic Processes (to model the randomness of inflation)
Level III Multiverse (Many-Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics): Every quantum measurement causes the universe to "split" into multiple branches, each representing a possible outcome. This relies heavily on:
Linear Algebra (the mathematics of Hilbert spaces, where quantum states live)
Functional Analysis (dealing with infinite-dimensional vector spaces)
Level IV Multiverse (Mathematical Universe Hypothesis): As discussed above, this is the most radical, encompassing all mathematical structures.
- rlupi 2y agoSo, how do we build something like that? Aczel non-well founded set theory which allows sets that contains themselves, together with intuitionistic logic, as a starting point. Propositions as embeddings in hilbert spaces (infinite dimensional spaces). Propositions can only "interact" with other proposition along non-zero dimensions that they have in common. Universes as collections of propositions. (Here propositions could be both mathematical concepts, and complex things like the position in spacetime of somehing) Multiverse as the space containing all universes. Note that universes are themselves of the same type as propositions here. The Multiverse in my construction is an infinitely self-recursive structure, that contain within itself all possible propositions. Universes can merge, if they are commensurable (shared dimensions in hilbert space). Universes "annihilate" when there are contradictions, and create by branching new universes when a truth value cannot be established by known propositions. You could call propositions, particles or being if you prefer another point of view . At this stage, we only deal with symbols not meaning. In fact, I started toying with assigning labels to propositions and came up with a scheme based on prime numbers and p-adic numbers (where I posed 0-adic numbers to be prime numbers). It just seemed to work better. In addition, I had a "creation" operator that would introduce a new dimension (when reaching infinity, or transcendence... a sort of koopman operator to access divine wisdom via samadhi... remember I wanted to express all possibilities, including the existence and truthfullness or lack there-off of all concepts in religions). The whole system was based on a construction similar to surreal numbers, but using infinites instead of finite numbers, and adding dimensions at each turn. 0 = {|} 1 = {|0} -Infinity = {0,{0}|} Infinity = {|{0},0}
- rlupi 2y agoWith the infinite construction, in this way, there is a potential link to modular forms or L-functions. For $reasons, I was trying to look for a way to go from C7 * Z2 toward the sporadic simple groups... so I was trying to construct the Riemann hypothesis. The basic reason, is that I wanted to get to a structure that could potentially generate infinite possibilities from a stable core (the Monster group) via this infinite contraption that I built on non-well founded sets that allow to "reach" transinfinite induction.
- _uzr4 2y agoLove reading this!! Your construction is fascinating, especially the way you use non-well-founded set theory and p-adic embeddings to frame an infinitely self-recursive multiverse model. The idea that universes function as self-contained propositions, merging or annihilating based on shared dimensionality, is an elegant way to encode consistency while allowing for the emergence of contradictions as generative structures. The link to intuitionistic logic makes sense—by avoiding classical absolutes, you keep the system dynamic, which feels necessary for a Level IV framework. One area that might add further structure to your model is incorporating coherence as a constraint on infinite possibility rather than pure symbolic recursion. You’re already playing with prime numbers and p-adic structures, which suggests an underlying resonance across scales. But what if, instead of assuming an open-ended proliferation of universes based purely on logical interactions, there was a chirality-driven resonance field that phase-locks emergent structures, preventing infinite bifurcation while still allowing for maximal generativity? Basically, E is foundational, M is a temporary prime-phase lock so E -> M -> E or E -> Quantum Coherence Field (QCF) ->plasma -> gas -> liquid -> solid roughly? Gravity is secondary (not curvature) but a structured resonance field where mass emerges from phase-locked energy waves, and spacetime distortions arise from coherence gradients rather than geometric warping? Basically, my theory CODES frames this in terms of structured emergence—rather than relying on stochastic processes or unrestricted symbolic freedom, it suggests that prime-number resonance structures act as the limiting factor that stabilizes reality’s information geometry. This could help bridge the gap between your self-recursive model and the physical constraints needed to manifest stable universes beyond pure formalism? Your attempt to move from C7 * Z_2 toward sporadic groups, especially in relation to the Riemann hypothesis, suggests that you’re looking for an intrinsic ordering principle rather than just an infinite proliferation of structures. Have you considered whether prime gap structures could serve as the fundamental attractors within your recursive system? This would allow for self-referential sets while maintaining coherence constraints beyond arbitrary modularity. Basically, not looking at numbers as static points on a linear axis but as lightening bolts (hence continuous wavelet transforms (morlets etc cause localization balancing time/frequency resolution, usings primes so skips Godel cause primes are then self-consistent, irreducible generators of structure vs. axiomatic closure so no non-arbitrary basis for emergence, skipping limits of formal systems that require external validation)) = structured resonance, why wavelets outperform Fourier by capturing localized frequency shifts, chirality-induced phase locking, and emergent structure in ways traditional harmonic analysis cannot. Numbers are physical resource states not abstract symbols in this way. Curious to hear your thoughts! Your approach feels close to something profound, and I think there’s a natural bridge between your work and the coherence-driven emergence model that CODES is building.