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It’s been operating safely in each market they’re in. The AI keeps getting better. They have no competition (please don’t bother mentioning Tesla vapor ware). P

It’s been operating safely in each market they’re in. The AI keeps getting better. They have no competition (please don’t bother mentioning Tesla vapor ware). Path to high growth seems pretty sure at this point.

scarface_74 2y ago
And the markets they are in are low hanging fruit with good weather. I’m not saying Waymo is less safe than human drivers. I am saying that it will only take one fatal accident by any self driving car for people to lose confidence, investigations to start, rollouts to be paused etc. I’m also not saying that is a logical response.
- flutas 2y ago
  > I am saying that it will only take one fatal accident by any self driving car for people to lose confidence, investigations to start, rollouts to be paused etc. Uber and Cruise are both great examples of this, but it seems like the effect is mostly localized to the company itself that has the issue. Uber hit and killed a jaywalking pedestrian, resulting in their self driving tech being sold to Aurora. [0] Cruise hit a pedestrian that was flung into the cars path that a human driver hit previously. This resulted in GM completely abandoning Cruise and their future seems foggy at best. [1] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elaine_Herzberg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elaine_Herzberg [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_(autonomous_vehicle)#Suspension_of_operations_and_eventual_shut_down https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_(autonomous_vehicle)#Su...
no_wizard 2y ago
Which is very very few markets, and all of them share weather patterns that are very similar. When Waymo can demonstrate reliably going from Chicago to Ann Harbor in the middle of a snow storm thats when we can start talking about how its good enough.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  It reminds me of the advanced ED209 robot in Robocop that was taken out by an inability to go down a flight of stairs https://youtu.be/_MS4sLlBvbE https://youtu.be/_MS4sLlBvbE
- anon-3988 2y ago
  If robots can bring everyone to and from work it would be over for manual driving. People dont buy cars to drive in extreme weather in remote areas.
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    But they do buy cars that they can drive to work in the rain, snow, etc.
  - no_wizard 2y ago
    Neither area I referenced is remote.
    - anon-3988 2y ago
      Put it another way, would you buy a car if you cannot use it for daily work commute? I think for a lot of people the answer is obviously no.
      - no_wizard 2y ago
        Sure wouldn’t, and for what it’s worth that’s why the scenario is a great litmus test. If it can do that, it should be able to handle anything else thrown at it
        anon-3988 2y ago
        Except we already do have that technology, its not a fancy robot, but trains. I wouldn't consider buying a car in Tokyo.

scarface_74 2y ago

And the markets they are in are low hanging fruit with good weather. I’m not saying Waymo is less safe than human drivers. I am saying that it will only take one fatal accident by any self driving car for people to lose confidence, investigations to start, rollouts to be paused etc. I’m also not saying that is a logical response.

flutas 2y ago
> I am saying that it will only take one fatal accident by any self driving car for people to lose confidence, investigations to start, rollouts to be paused etc. Uber and Cruise are both great examples of this, but it seems like the effect is mostly localized to the company itself that has the issue. Uber hit and killed a jaywalking pedestrian, resulting in their self driving tech being sold to Aurora. [0] Cruise hit a pedestrian that was flung into the cars path that a human driver hit previously. This resulted in GM completely abandoning Cruise and their future seems foggy at best. [1] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elaine_Herzberg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elaine_Herzberg [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_(autonomous_vehicle)#Suspension_of_operations_and_eventual_shut_down https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_(autonomous_vehicle)#Su...

no_wizard 2y ago

Which is very very few markets, and all of them share weather patterns that are very similar. When Waymo can demonstrate reliably going from Chicago to Ann Harbor in the middle of a snow storm thats when we can start talking about how its good enough.

scarface_74 2y ago
It reminds me of the advanced ED209 robot in Robocop that was taken out by an inability to go down a flight of stairs https://youtu.be/_MS4sLlBvbE https://youtu.be/_MS4sLlBvbE
anon-3988 2y ago
If robots can bring everyone to and from work it would be over for manual driving. People dont buy cars to drive in extreme weather in remote areas.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  But they do buy cars that they can drive to work in the rain, snow, etc.
- no_wizard 2y ago
  Neither area I referenced is remote.
  - anon-3988 2y ago
    Put it another way, would you buy a car if you cannot use it for daily work commute? I think for a lot of people the answer is obviously no.
    - no_wizard 2y ago
      Sure wouldn’t, and for what it’s worth that’s why the scenario is a great litmus test. If it can do that, it should be able to handle anything else thrown at it
      - anon-3988 2y ago
        Except we already do have that technology, its not a fancy robot, but trains. I wouldn't consider buying a car in Tokyo.