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I live near where the article talks about and the ISP it mentions, Empire Access, is fantastic! I have $60/mo 1Gbps fiber with 1 to 3 ms latency.

by asow92 2y ago

DidYaWipe 2y ago
We the taxpayers gave the telcos hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars to bring this to everyone, and they... just blew it off and kept the money: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-book-of-broken-promis_b_5839394 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-book-of-broken-promis_b_5...
- hn_acker 2y ago
  Not sure what you meant by replying with the (otherwise relevant) article about violating subsidy conditions (usually done by serial abusers like AT&T) to a comment about Empire Access. I don't know what Empire Access usually does, but in the case mentioned in TFA, Empire Access will operate on municipal open-access fiber infrastructure, which the Oswego County (not Empire Access) will use subsidies to build.
  - DidYaWipe 2y ago
    I'm pointing out that by now we should all be enjoying fiber to the home; it should not be remarkable.
- AngryData 2y ago
  They did lay some fiber, the problem is it was the fiber to supply their cellphone networks and not to directly serve customers, which allows them to gouge customers through mobile data without running afoul of any of the restrictions put on the fiber network the government paid them for.
  - troyvit 2y ago
    Oh but don't worry about it! Remember how they all said 5G would replace wired internet completely? 'augmented reality, “the internet of things,” and seamless streaming to the mainstream': https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/5g-explained https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/5g-explained 'By packing or “densifying” the network, signals will be carried faster and more reliably, with bandwidth measured not in megabits but rather in gigabits per second.': https://hbr.org/2019/03/5gs-potential-and-why-businesses-should-start-preparing-for-it https://hbr.org/2019/03/5gs-potential-and-why-businesses-sho... 'Consumers expect 5G to offer a step change in network performance, relief from urban network congestion and more home broadband choices as near-term benefits.': https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/consumerlab/reports/5g-consumer-potential https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/consumerlab/r... (All these are articles published between January 2018 and October 2020)
- asow92 2y ago
  I'm not disagreeing with you, however, Empire Access is neither Verizon, AT&T, nor CenturyLink.
  - DidYaWipe 2y ago
    Clearly, because they're actually delivering.
- yostrovs 2y ago
  You should be upset at the government that gave the money and that didn't do the due diligence to make sure it's used for proper cause. Secondly, it should be reconsidered that giving billions to profit making corporations so that they can make more money is a good idea.
  - DidYaWipe 2y ago
    I am, as all taxpayers should be.

I live near where the article talks about and the ISP it mentions, Empire Access, is fantastic! I have $60/mo 1Gbps fiber with 1 to 3 ms latency.

by asow92 2y ago

I live near where the article talks about and the ISP it mentions, Empire Access, is fantastic! I have $60/mo 1Gbps fiber with 1 to 3 ms latency.

DidYaWipe 2y ago

We the taxpayers gave the telcos hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars to bring this to everyone, and they... just blew it off and kept the money: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-book-of-broken-promis_b_5839394 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-book-of-broken-promis_b_5...

hn_acker 2y ago
Not sure what you meant by replying with the (otherwise relevant) article about violating subsidy conditions (usually done by serial abusers like AT&T) to a comment about Empire Access. I don't know what Empire Access usually does, but in the case mentioned in TFA, Empire Access will operate on municipal open-access fiber infrastructure, which the Oswego County (not Empire Access) will use subsidies to build.
- DidYaWipe 2y ago
  I'm pointing out that by now we should all be enjoying fiber to the home; it should not be remarkable.
AngryData 2y ago
They did lay some fiber, the problem is it was the fiber to supply their cellphone networks and not to directly serve customers, which allows them to gouge customers through mobile data without running afoul of any of the restrictions put on the fiber network the government paid them for.
- troyvit 2y ago
  Oh but don't worry about it! Remember how they all said 5G would replace wired internet completely? 'augmented reality, “the internet of things,” and seamless streaming to the mainstream': https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/5g-explained https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/5g-explained 'By packing or “densifying” the network, signals will be carried faster and more reliably, with bandwidth measured not in megabits but rather in gigabits per second.': https://hbr.org/2019/03/5gs-potential-and-why-businesses-should-start-preparing-for-it https://hbr.org/2019/03/5gs-potential-and-why-businesses-sho... 'Consumers expect 5G to offer a step change in network performance, relief from urban network congestion and more home broadband choices as near-term benefits.': https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/consumerlab/reports/5g-consumer-potential https://www.ericsson.com/en/reports-and-papers/consumerlab/r... (All these are articles published between January 2018 and October 2020)
asow92 2y ago
I'm not disagreeing with you, however, Empire Access is neither Verizon, AT&T, nor CenturyLink.
- DidYaWipe 2y ago
  Clearly, because they're actually delivering.
yostrovs 2y ago
You should be upset at the government that gave the money and that didn't do the due diligence to make sure it's used for proper cause. Secondly, it should be reconsidered that giving billions to profit making corporations so that they can make more money is a good idea.
- DidYaWipe 2y ago
  I am, as all taxpayers should be.