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> Some of us don't want education to be state-based. Then change the constitution, which delegated education to the states: https://www.findlaw.com/education/c

> Some of us don't want education to be state-based. Then change the constitution, which delegated education to the states: https://www.findlaw.com/education/curriculum-standards-school-funding/the-roles-of-federal-and-state-governments-in-education.html https://www.findlaw.com/education/curriculum-standards-schoo... Federal meddling in it is legally dubious, and mostly happens via financial extortion - extract taxes from states, then return them so long as the states do what the federal govt. wants. Unfortunately the Supreme Court has been extremely negligent in enforcing limits on federal power [1]. [1] It infamously determined that a farmer growing wheat on his own land, to feed his own animals, counts as inter-state commerce, and can therefore be regulated by the federal government, on the tortured logic that such an action could eventually indirectly affect inter-state commerce: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

Tadpole9181 2y ago
That's a fine debate too, though IMO dubious. But my point is that the OP predisposes that the ideal is that states do everything.
- like_any_other 2y ago
  It seems to work fine in Europe - their countries are comparable in size to US states.
  - Tadpole9181 2y ago
    And yet they made the EU. Some problems are better served by large, centralized, amortized bodies. Furthermore, Europe and the USA are so radically different culturally and politically that the comparison isn't particularly helpful.
    - like_any_other 2y ago
      > And yet they made the EU. Yes, but the EU-level synchronization of the individual school systems is minimal, mostly limited to establishing degree equivalences and mutual recognition. The differences between the EU and USA don't make this example - of perfectly functioning education systems in small countries - any less relevant.

Tadpole9181 2y ago

That's a fine debate too, though IMO dubious. But my point is that the OP predisposes that the ideal is that states do everything.

like_any_other 2y ago
It seems to work fine in Europe - their countries are comparable in size to US states.
- Tadpole9181 2y ago
  And yet they made the EU. Some problems are better served by large, centralized, amortized bodies. Furthermore, Europe and the USA are so radically different culturally and politically that the comparison isn't particularly helpful.
  - like_any_other 2y ago
    > And yet they made the EU. Yes, but the EU-level synchronization of the individual school systems is minimal, mostly limited to establishing degree equivalences and mutual recognition. The differences between the EU and USA don't make this example - of perfectly functioning education systems in small countries - any less relevant.