>It sucks that all the Civ competitors seemed to have failed so far. The genre really needs some innovation. They failed because they were not the full "civ ex

>It sucks that all the Civ competitors seemed to have failed so far. The genre really needs some innovation. They failed because they were not the full "civ experience", which is to say attention to detail with character design, artwork, music, voice acting, etc. etc. They were mostly just attempts at innovating on the gameplay mechanics and treating the historical aspect as an afterthought, rather than a main focus. Indie devs can make great games with great mechanics, but this video from the OP kinda demonstrates the difference between indie and AAA dev. No matter how good of a game you can make, you simply will never have the resources for the level of polish required to truly compete against something like Civ. Short of another AAA studio taking up the mantle, I doubt anyone will ever outdo them.