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(barring some large swing in the polls) You aren't watching politics right now are you? It's happening in real time. It is actually quite dramatic - the US/C

(barring some large swing in the polls) You aren't watching politics right now are you? It's happening in real time. It is actually quite dramatic - the US/CDN relationship is superseding most other political issues.

bilbo0s 2y ago
I thought this comment was bluster and looked it up. Sigh. Even Canadians dislike us now. How bad do you have to screw up that the Canadians dislike you? All I can say is that, (maybe?), this will only last the four years. I'm sure conservative Canadian parties did not think Trump and Vance would go off the deep end. Neither did a whole lot of conservative Americans. But buyer's remorse won't get anyone anywhere at this point. Just have to try make the best of what you can and live with the consequences with respect to the rest. Unfortunately for conservative Canadian parties, it's looking like that probably means absorbing some impact at the polls at this point.
- voisin 2y ago
  > How bad do you have to screw up that the Canadians dislike you? You just have to ignore a long standing positive relationship, threaten to annex the country, threaten to destroy its economy, and make a bunch of unfounded claims about fentanyl trafficking. Easy-peasy.
- boringg 2y ago
  I would say that this feels like a significant rupture in the relationship completely borne out of a very disrespectful position. Trying to brow-beat population into submission typically doesn't really work that well for long-term relationships. Even if most Canadians do recognize that the population isn't the administration it does give people pause and they certainly look to spend their money elsewhere until the people in power look to build upon relationships with their allies instead of trying to dominate them.
dismalaf 2y ago
It'll die out and people will remember that 9 years of Liberal rule has destroyed our quality of life and we've lost ground to all our peer countries...
- asacrowflies 2y ago
  You really think Canadian will roll over sovereignty so easily!? I think not.
  - dismalaf 2y ago
    Sovereignty? There is no Canadian party that supports joining the US. If you think there is then you've really been drinking the Kool-Aid... Edit - To add to this, read Carney's book or listen to his various speeches prior to him starting this political run... Carney doesn't believe in nations, wants to pursue a globalist future, he's been in Trudeau's ear for years and Trudeau's "post-nationalism" is very much something Carney believes in. But yeah, sure, Carney now decides he's a nationalist...
    - asacrowflies 2y ago
      I didn't say that. It is the USA making the threats. This is causing a huge sudden swing in polls. You seem to think this momentum will "die out" why would Canadians begin to care less about sovereignty as time goes on?
      - dismalaf 2y ago
        Implying sovereignty is an issue at all is implying that one party cares more about it than the other... This is a popular leftist talking point at the moment but it's far from the truth and as more information about both parties' and leaders' beliefs is disseminated yes, the momentum will die out.
        asacrowflies 2y ago
        It's very obvious the constituents feel like one party values the issue more than another as the polls are showing??? Not sure what your trying to say here I feel the goalpost keeps moving...

bilbo0s 2y ago

I thought this comment was bluster and looked it up. Sigh. Even Canadians dislike us now. How bad do you have to screw up that the Canadians dislike you? All I can say is that, (maybe?), this will only last the four years. I'm sure conservative Canadian parties did not think Trump and Vance would go off the deep end. Neither did a whole lot of conservative Americans. But buyer's remorse won't get anyone anywhere at this point. Just have to try make the best of what you can and live with the consequences with respect to the rest. Unfortunately for conservative Canadian parties, it's looking like that probably means absorbing some impact at the polls at this point.

voisin 2y ago
> How bad do you have to screw up that the Canadians dislike you? You just have to ignore a long standing positive relationship, threaten to annex the country, threaten to destroy its economy, and make a bunch of unfounded claims about fentanyl trafficking. Easy-peasy.
boringg 2y ago
I would say that this feels like a significant rupture in the relationship completely borne out of a very disrespectful position. Trying to brow-beat population into submission typically doesn't really work that well for long-term relationships. Even if most Canadians do recognize that the population isn't the administration it does give people pause and they certainly look to spend their money elsewhere until the people in power look to build upon relationships with their allies instead of trying to dominate them.

dismalaf 2y ago

It'll die out and people will remember that 9 years of Liberal rule has destroyed our quality of life and we've lost ground to all our peer countries...

asacrowflies 2y ago
You really think Canadian will roll over sovereignty so easily!? I think not.
- dismalaf 2y ago
  Sovereignty? There is no Canadian party that supports joining the US. If you think there is then you've really been drinking the Kool-Aid... Edit - To add to this, read Carney's book or listen to his various speeches prior to him starting this political run... Carney doesn't believe in nations, wants to pursue a globalist future, he's been in Trudeau's ear for years and Trudeau's "post-nationalism" is very much something Carney believes in. But yeah, sure, Carney now decides he's a nationalist...
  - asacrowflies 2y ago
    I didn't say that. It is the USA making the threats. This is causing a huge sudden swing in polls. You seem to think this momentum will "die out" why would Canadians begin to care less about sovereignty as time goes on?
    - dismalaf 2y ago
      Implying sovereignty is an issue at all is implying that one party cares more about it than the other... This is a popular leftist talking point at the moment but it's far from the truth and as more information about both parties' and leaders' beliefs is disseminated yes, the momentum will die out.
      - asacrowflies 2y ago
        It's very obvious the constituents feel like one party values the issue more than another as the polls are showing??? Not sure what your trying to say here I feel the goalpost keeps moving...