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Unfortunately, BEAM VM is very slow compared to multiple other languages including Go. It's great when starting out with a few developers, however, since Go and

Unfortunately, BEAM VM is very slow compared to multiple other languages including Go. It's great when starting out with a few developers, however, since Go and Rust are much more performant, it is possible to hire several more Go or Rust developers with the server cost savings instead of being tied to Elixir. There is always a trade off between easy to use and high performance. But, yeah, if I was going to bootstrap a startup at the seed level, Elixir is the best choice for backend. If I'm spending $500K+ a year on infrastructure, I'll be looking at Go and Rust.

cultofmetatron 2y ago
> Unfortunately, BEAM VM is very slow compared to multiple other languages including Go. for cpu bound tasks? sure. but we are talking in the context of networking. elixir is going to absolutely smoke go for applications requiring a lot of simultaneous connections. We can already see it in actionable vs phoenix channels. channels supports a magnitude order more simultaneous websocket connections per machine. ps: libraries like rustler exist. you can take the cpu intensive stuff and offload it to a module written in rust when you really need to squeeze some perf out.
- johnisgood 2y ago
  And for CPU-bound tasks one could use NIFs (usually better) or Ports if absolutely necessary. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42035912/running-c-code-in-elixir-erlang-ports-or-nifs https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42035912/running-c-code-...
- dataviz1000 2y ago
  Elixir lacks the fine grain control for optimizing I/O which Go provides. Moreover, a bit torrent client requires CPU intensive hash verification, encryption/decryption, and data compression/decompression which will greatly slow down Elixir. You can build a connector to Rust or instead of using slow abstraction layers you can build the thing in Rust if you have the skills. Rather then tell me, you are going to have to build a bit torrent client in Elixir and show me. Otherwise, after my years experience working with an Elixir team, I don't believe you.
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cultofmetatron 2y ago

> Unfortunately, BEAM VM is very slow compared to multiple other languages including Go. for cpu bound tasks? sure. but we are talking in the context of networking. elixir is going to absolutely smoke go for applications requiring a lot of simultaneous connections. We can already see it in actionable vs phoenix channels. channels supports a magnitude order more simultaneous websocket connections per machine. ps: libraries like rustler exist. you can take the cpu intensive stuff and offload it to a module written in rust when you really need to squeeze some perf out.

johnisgood 2y ago
And for CPU-bound tasks one could use NIFs (usually better) or Ports if absolutely necessary. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42035912/running-c-code-in-elixir-erlang-ports-or-nifs https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42035912/running-c-code-...
dataviz1000 2y ago
Elixir lacks the fine grain control for optimizing I/O which Go provides. Moreover, a bit torrent client requires CPU intensive hash verification, encryption/decryption, and data compression/decompression which will greatly slow down Elixir. You can build a connector to Rust or instead of using slow abstraction layers you can build the thing in Rust if you have the skills. Rather then tell me, you are going to have to build a bit torrent client in Elixir and show me. Otherwise, after my years experience working with an Elixir team, I don't believe you.
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