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I wasn't commentating on the rationale behind the thinking or whether it is right or not, just that the idea of the internal enemy is not owned by any one polit
by starspangled 2y ago
I wasn't commentating on the rationale behind the thinking or whether it is right or not, just that the idea of the internal enemy is not owned by any one political persuasion.
Though I'm sure right-wing groups believe themselves to be tolerant of one-another and their allies and others with similar aims, and that groups that oppose them are intolerant and therefore must be met with intolerance. The paradox of the paradox of tolerance is that you can't claim tolerance by excusing your intolerance with the paradox of tolerance. Or said another way, one man's tolerance is another's intolerance.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agoNah. The side that actively spouts racist, misogynistic, homophobic, and anti-trans positions is pretty clearly the intolerant one. This is not hard to see unless one is being willfully blind. Which is especially funny given this conversation is happening in response to giving Grok an intentional blind spot.
- starspangled 2y agoOther side will call them intolerant racists too, it is also pretty clear to them.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agoCongrats, you've bought into the fascist's messaging.
- starspangled 2y agoNo I haven't.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agohttps://graphics.social/@metin/113865450624948092 https://graphics.social/@metin/113865450624948092 https://archive.is/g6ElI https://archive.is/g6ElI The intolerance of others is a core part of the fascist playbook.
- starspangled 2y agoI didn't say it wasn't.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agoCreating a false equivalency between intolerance of the intolerant and intolerance of others / other groups is a key rhetorical device for fascists. Even if you've walked to this position through "logic" and a concept of perfectly spherical human beings [0], with no steps through fascism, you should be aware of how this position is used by fascists to give themselves a veneer of rationality while painting their opponents as irrational. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_cow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_cow To put it another way: https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/578682-adolf-hitler https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/578682-adolf-hitler
- starspangled 2y agoI didn't create a false equivalence.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y agoOk this time I'll put as much effort into my reply as you did: Yes you did.
- Shosty123 2y agoThey actually didn't and I don't know why you think they did.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago>Seems like a typical mythos of most political movements these days, doesn't it? E.g., "the far-right is our greatest threat". >Though I'm sure right-wing groups believe themselves to be tolerant of one-another and their allies and others with similar aims, and that groups that oppose them are intolerant and therefore must be met with intolerance. >Other side will call them intolerant racists too, it is also pretty clear to them. These would be the statements where they were creating a false equivalence. The things being compared are not equivalent but they are given rhetorical treatment to make them seem equivalent.