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> Add some racism into this mix >> or in Russia That's not correct. The article describes a case where over the course of ten years more than a dozen of Russ

> Add some racism into this mix >> or in Russia That's not correct. The article describes a case where over the course of ten years more than a dozen of Russian women living in a facility for people with mental development issues were tricked into consenting to sterilization. It created a nationwide scandal when became public and was under investigation by law enforcement authorities. Nothing racist, nothing systemic.

mschuster91 2y ago
> The article describes a case where over the course of ten years more than a dozen of Russian women living in a facility for people with mental development issues were tricked into consenting to sterilization. Unfortunately, asylum inmates getting sterilized is a very common and sad thing to happen...
- drysine 2y ago
  >asylum inmates getting sterilized is a very common Citation needed
  - defrost 2y ago
    Pick a country, pick a time frame, it varies. _very_ common might be a stretch, but that it happens at all is a problem. For interest, in California in the USofA, By 1979, long after the peak of the 1930s eugenics movement, California sterilized an estimated 20,000 people, deemed unfit to reproduce, without their consent. The practice ended in 1979 for state hospitals and in 2010 for state prisons, when eugenics laws were finally repealed. An exposé from The Center for Investigative Reporting in 2013 revealed 148 women were sterilized without proper approval from 2006 to 2010, and a separate state audit found that the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation oversaw the illegal sterilization of 144 inmates from 2005 to 2013. ( from: https://calmatters.org/newsletters/whatmatters/2023/03/forced-sterilization-california/ https://calmatters.org/newsletters/whatmatters/2023/03/force...) shows that eugenic type sterilization procedures continued after the laws allowing them were repealed in 2010. Yes, I realise that "the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation" isn't an "asylum" but given the nature of modern US mental health treatment there is now considerable overlap. What is more recent and alledged to be ongoing is unconsented abortions and sterilizations in ICE centres, eg: https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/reproductive-abuse-is-rampant-in-the-immigration-detention-system https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/reproductive-abu... ( there are multiple ACLU articles about different aspects of this ).
    - drysine 2y ago
      Thanks for caring to respond, I didn't know that and was too skeptical to even google
- airhangerf15 2y ago
  What happens when they do get pregnant and must raise a child while also dealing with weekly or daily hallucinations that no drug seems to treat?

mschuster91 2y ago

> The article describes a case where over the course of ten years more than a dozen of Russian women living in a facility for people with mental development issues were tricked into consenting to sterilization. Unfortunately, asylum inmates getting sterilized is a very common and sad thing to happen...

drysine 2y ago
>asylum inmates getting sterilized is a very common Citation needed
- defrost 2y ago
  Pick a country, pick a time frame, it varies. _very_ common might be a stretch, but that it happens at all is a problem. For interest, in California in the USofA, By 1979, long after the peak of the 1930s eugenics movement, California sterilized an estimated 20,000 people, deemed unfit to reproduce, without their consent. The practice ended in 1979 for state hospitals and in 2010 for state prisons, when eugenics laws were finally repealed. An exposé from The Center for Investigative Reporting in 2013 revealed 148 women were sterilized without proper approval from 2006 to 2010, and a separate state audit found that the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation oversaw the illegal sterilization of 144 inmates from 2005 to 2013. ( from: https://calmatters.org/newsletters/whatmatters/2023/03/forced-sterilization-california/ https://calmatters.org/newsletters/whatmatters/2023/03/force...) shows that eugenic type sterilization procedures continued after the laws allowing them were repealed in 2010. Yes, I realise that "the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation" isn't an "asylum" but given the nature of modern US mental health treatment there is now considerable overlap. What is more recent and alledged to be ongoing is unconsented abortions and sterilizations in ICE centres, eg: https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/reproductive-abuse-is-rampant-in-the-immigration-detention-system https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/reproductive-abu... ( there are multiple ACLU articles about different aspects of this ).
  - drysine 2y ago
    Thanks for caring to respond, I didn't know that and was too skeptical to even google
airhangerf15 2y ago
What happens when they do get pregnant and must raise a child while also dealing with weekly or daily hallucinations that no drug seems to treat?