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So what _are_ they supposed to do about the children? The alternative (doing nothing) is not good. Or do you think that government should shrink their responsi

So what _are_ they supposed to do about the children? The alternative (doing nothing) is not good. Or do you think that government should shrink their responsibilities and everyone should watch out for their own kids?

Ekaros 2y ago
Couldn't we ask same thing about financial fraud. That is should government have AI to scan every single message send by everyone to see if they are responding to some scam? Maybe direct those matching certain criteria automatically to teams of people who are allowed to read through that correspondence? That too would be doing something. And maybe even net benefit for many individuals.
- d0gsg0w00f 2y ago
  But that's expanding government's role even further to cover even more forms of abuse. Are you saying "if they're going to scan for CP they might as well scan for fraud too"?
  - Ekaros 2y ago
    No I am asking wouldn't that be as good reason. Or even protect lot more people.
raxxorraxor 2y ago
First thing would not to vote for Starmer who probably was involved in covering up polically inconvenient child abuse. Better start with that or few people will believe your intent.
- sph 2y ago
  In most Western countries, you don't have many choices these days: conservatives, conservatives disguised as Liberals, the idioticly popular populist party that sets the agenda because it tops the polls, the crazy far left. Any in any case it's always the blue Tories or the red Tories that win. To quote a Spanish punk band, en esta democracia, siempre gobiernan los mismos, solo cambia el maquillaje.
  - robin_reala 2y ago
    You didn’t mention the greens, who typically are moderate left-progressive, environment focused, and used to working in coalition.
    - sph 2y ago
      I put the greens, the party of NIMBY anti-nuclear loons, together with the crazy far-left. They're too busy faffing about with ideology and identity politics to achieve anything worthwhile. And I say this as a left-leaning tree hugging hippie.
nprateem 2y ago
On tech forums you're supposed to pretend that child abuse doesn't exist and that it can always be waved away as an excuse. Granted, once they have the ability to snoop they will, but it's a legit reason in this case.
- InkBloomfield 2y ago
  The vast majority of CSAM, terrorists and criminals don't practice any Infosec at all. Even if that were the case, just because someone uses a particular technology for nefarious means that doesn't mean I or anyone law abiding shouldn't have the right to use said technology.

Ekaros 2y ago

Couldn't we ask same thing about financial fraud. That is should government have AI to scan every single message send by everyone to see if they are responding to some scam? Maybe direct those matching certain criteria automatically to teams of people who are allowed to read through that correspondence? That too would be doing something. And maybe even net benefit for many individuals.

d0gsg0w00f 2y ago
But that's expanding government's role even further to cover even more forms of abuse. Are you saying "if they're going to scan for CP they might as well scan for fraud too"?
- Ekaros 2y ago
  No I am asking wouldn't that be as good reason. Or even protect lot more people.

raxxorraxor 2y ago

First thing would not to vote for Starmer who probably was involved in covering up polically inconvenient child abuse. Better start with that or few people will believe your intent.

sph 2y ago
In most Western countries, you don't have many choices these days: conservatives, conservatives disguised as Liberals, the idioticly popular populist party that sets the agenda because it tops the polls, the crazy far left. Any in any case it's always the blue Tories or the red Tories that win. To quote a Spanish punk band, en esta democracia, siempre gobiernan los mismos, solo cambia el maquillaje.
- robin_reala 2y ago
  You didn’t mention the greens, who typically are moderate left-progressive, environment focused, and used to working in coalition.
  - sph 2y ago
    I put the greens, the party of NIMBY anti-nuclear loons, together with the crazy far-left. They're too busy faffing about with ideology and identity politics to achieve anything worthwhile. And I say this as a left-leaning tree hugging hippie.

nprateem 2y ago

On tech forums you're supposed to pretend that child abuse doesn't exist and that it can always be waved away as an excuse. Granted, once they have the ability to snoop they will, but it's a legit reason in this case.

InkBloomfield 2y ago
The vast majority of CSAM, terrorists and criminals don't practice any Infosec at all. Even if that were the case, just because someone uses a particular technology for nefarious means that doesn't mean I or anyone law abiding shouldn't have the right to use said technology.