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An insane argument of the day: it's the productivity problem. The worker productivity is just so high nowadays, that it's impossible to have more than 70% of wo

An insane argument of the day: it's the productivity problem. The worker productivity is just so high nowadays, that it's impossible to have more than 70% of working population meaningfully employed. We need to start to employ people to dig holes and then fill them back because there is no other reasonable way to justify their sustenance. Sadly, that's precisely what's DOGE is against.

georgemcbay 2y ago
> Sadly, that's precisely what's DOGE is against. They, or rather Elon anyway, are also super pro-natalist. So not only are they not really interested in dealing with the growing disconnect between increasing per-capita productivity and the inability of the average citizen laborer to share in the wealth of that increased productivity, they are also advocating for significant population growth too. Number must always go UP! Everyone go have 12 kids please. Ya'll got billions in the bank to take care of them in the face of a likely double whammy of increased inflation and decreased job prospects, right?
ygouzerh 2y ago
Indeed! We are inventing illogical concepts like Planned Obsolescence, Guerilla Marketing and Over-Consumerism just in order to sustain a failed system that push people into poverty, even when there are enough goods and services produced for everyone already.
bofadeez 2y ago
Wow... It's like the lady who thinks her reflection is fake... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
- Joker_vD 2y ago
  > and what would become of the glaziers if panes of glass were never broken? Well, there would be much fewer of glaziers around, and the panes of glass would also be priced much, much higher than they are today. And it's not like being a glazier is a person's identity and an inborn destiny, is it? There ain't no e.g. limeburners any more yet we manage somehow.
  - bofadeez 2y ago
    Derp
goalieca 2y ago
> The worker productivity is just so high nowadays, that it's impossible to have more than 70% of working population meaningfully employed What!? There’s probably some companies in tech where people are shuffling papers but there is a massive mismatch in jobs and skills. There is a labour shortage in many regions and skilled trades can make a killing.
- Joker_vD 2y ago
  It's like people deliberately skip the "insane argument" part of my comment. Let me re-iterate then: the argument in my original comment is insane.
jjk166 2y ago
Are we living in a world where while only 70% of the working population is employed everyone's needs and material desires are met? If yes then the unemployed have no need to justify their sustenance. If no then there is more meaningful work to be done. Big difference between no one needs anything done, and no one needs what I do done.

georgemcbay 2y ago

> Sadly, that's precisely what's DOGE is against. They, or rather Elon anyway, are also super pro-natalist. So not only are they not really interested in dealing with the growing disconnect between increasing per-capita productivity and the inability of the average citizen laborer to share in the wealth of that increased productivity, they are also advocating for significant population growth too. Number must always go UP! Everyone go have 12 kids please. Ya'll got billions in the bank to take care of them in the face of a likely double whammy of increased inflation and decreased job prospects, right?

ygouzerh 2y ago

Indeed! We are inventing illogical concepts like Planned Obsolescence, Guerilla Marketing and Over-Consumerism just in order to sustain a failed system that push people into poverty, even when there are enough goods and services produced for everyone already.

bofadeez 2y ago

Wow... It's like the lady who thinks her reflection is fake... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

Joker_vD 2y ago
> and what would become of the glaziers if panes of glass were never broken? Well, there would be much fewer of glaziers around, and the panes of glass would also be priced much, much higher than they are today. And it's not like being a glazier is a person's identity and an inborn destiny, is it? There ain't no e.g. limeburners any more yet we manage somehow.
- bofadeez 2y ago
  Derp

goalieca 2y ago

> The worker productivity is just so high nowadays, that it's impossible to have more than 70% of working population meaningfully employed What!? There’s probably some companies in tech where people are shuffling papers but there is a massive mismatch in jobs and skills. There is a labour shortage in many regions and skilled trades can make a killing.

Joker_vD 2y ago
It's like people deliberately skip the "insane argument" part of my comment. Let me re-iterate then: the argument in my original comment is insane.

jjk166 2y ago

Are we living in a world where while only 70% of the working population is employed everyone's needs and material desires are met? If yes then the unemployed have no need to justify their sustenance. If no then there is more meaningful work to be done. Big difference between no one needs anything done, and no one needs what I do done.