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Ulysses (the Mac/iOS writing app) is made by a German company that's a good example of this.

FirmwareBurner 2y ago
Was curious until I saw it's subscription based! Seriously? For a writing app? They can politely gtfo with that, I already got burned before by subscription-ware before. I want to own my purchases thank you very much.
- tonyedgecombe 2y ago
  I doubt those sort of apps would be viable as a one off purchase.
  - FirmwareBurner 2y ago
    Why? Unless they also provide their own secure cloud for storage and sync in that price I don't see the issue. Plenty of quality apps are one-time-purchase to own. To me subscriptions are a scam waiting for the rug-pull to happen(a PE/VC fund buys them and fucks over their existing consumers). My favorite example is Beyond Compare. Pay once for the cross platform app and get free updates for each minor version, then you get a discount if you want to pay again to upgrade to the next major version. Or Plex Premium.
    - camillomiller 2y ago
      Because they have a team of employees that take care of new features, updates, maintenance and all put food on the table?
      - FirmwareBurner 2y ago
        Other apps have teams that do the same things, with one-time purchases, like in my examples above. As a SW dev I can empathize with your PoV, but from the perspective of an end consumer, I don't care about the externalities of the manufacturer of the product, I only care about value for my money. When you need to buy a new t-shirt, do you go and buy the one from the manufacturer that feeds the most families or do you buy the best value one from the nearest Walmart/Target/GAP that fulfills your needs for the best value (most likely made in an Asian sweatshop)? That's how most consumers think, including you. The costs, risks and dependencies of the manufacturer/vendor are irelevant to the end consumer, that's the cold harted calculated truth of how the free market capitalism works, and how it decides who lives and who dies.
        tonyedgecombe 2y ago
        >The costs, risks and dependencies of the manufacturer/vendor are irrelevant to the end consumer As is the desire from the customer for a one off purchase.
        camillomiller 2y ago
        I buy my t-shirts from Colorful Standards. They are 39€ a pop, but they last longer and are produced sustainably in Portugal.

Was curious until I saw it's subscription based! Seriously? For a writing app? They can politely gtfo with that, I already got burned before by subscription-ware before. I want to own my purchases thank you very much.

tonyedgecombe 2y ago
I doubt those sort of apps would be viable as a one off purchase.
- FirmwareBurner 2y ago
  Why? Unless they also provide their own secure cloud for storage and sync in that price I don't see the issue. Plenty of quality apps are one-time-purchase to own. To me subscriptions are a scam waiting for the rug-pull to happen(a PE/VC fund buys them and fucks over their existing consumers). My favorite example is Beyond Compare. Pay once for the cross platform app and get free updates for each minor version, then you get a discount if you want to pay again to upgrade to the next major version. Or Plex Premium.
  - camillomiller 2y ago
    Because they have a team of employees that take care of new features, updates, maintenance and all put food on the table?
    - FirmwareBurner 2y ago
      Other apps have teams that do the same things, with one-time purchases, like in my examples above. As a SW dev I can empathize with your PoV, but from the perspective of an end consumer, I don't care about the externalities of the manufacturer of the product, I only care about value for my money. When you need to buy a new t-shirt, do you go and buy the one from the manufacturer that feeds the most families or do you buy the best value one from the nearest Walmart/Target/GAP that fulfills your needs for the best value (most likely made in an Asian sweatshop)? That's how most consumers think, including you. The costs, risks and dependencies of the manufacturer/vendor are irelevant to the end consumer, that's the cold harted calculated truth of how the free market capitalism works, and how it decides who lives and who dies.
      - tonyedgecombe 2y ago
        >The costs, risks and dependencies of the manufacturer/vendor are irrelevant to the end consumer As is the desire from the customer for a one off purchase.
      - camillomiller 2y ago
        I buy my t-shirts from Colorful Standards. They are 39€ a pop, but they last longer and are produced sustainably in Portugal.