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Other than the massive profit?

by bronson 2y ago

GauntletWizard 2y ago
And the fact that these scam centers primarily target rich western countries that are at political odds with the CCP?
- janalsncm 2y ago
  They primarily target Chinese, actually. That’s why they kidnap Chinese to work there, because they speak the language and are more convincing to victims.
- phaerus_iconix 2y ago
  While you may well be correct in other cases, my local intuitions led me to wikipedia's [0] references to a NYT article, which claims that the scam centers in the town they are cutting power, etc., to primarily target Chinese victims. Since the abductees and other staff manning these call centers are mostly Chinese, it makes sense their victims are too. China is rich enough that they don't need to go to the extra hassle to find western-speakers. In fact, through both local news and second-hand accounts, I know there are even Thais who get tricked and abducted to scam Thais! Scammers are just equal opportunity about their cons: even the poorest bumpkin with a positive smartphone balance is welcome to ride on their roller-coster of desire and loss. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myawaddy?wprov=sfti1#Crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myawaddy?wprov=sfti1#Crime ed: deduplicate to; regret the last 28 minutes of my life.
HDThoreaun 2y ago
CCP has plenty of money. Theyre not north korea. That would be like the US government running scam centers. Juice not worth the squeeze.
- tbrownaw 2y ago
  How would it compare to the persistent belief that the CIA uses the illegal drug trade for funding?
  - blackoil 2y ago
    CIA has to get funds beyond what is approved by US govt to fund unapproved missions. China doesn't have these problems.
    - iosguyryan 2y ago
      The amount of copium when it comes to China vs US is illogical. If you’ve ever done business in China, you know there are honest folk and there are officials who do backroom deals that flaunt or bend the law, particularly abroad. If there’s money to be had, it will be made. If there’s points to be scored on the latest edict, they will be scored. If it needs to be done, but the public can’t handle hearing about it for their own good, it shall be so.
      - HDThoreaun 2y ago
        The same is true of US officials. I still dont think any of them are running scam centers.

Other than the massive profit?

GauntletWizard 2y ago

And the fact that these scam centers primarily target rich western countries that are at political odds with the CCP?

janalsncm 2y ago
They primarily target Chinese, actually. That’s why they kidnap Chinese to work there, because they speak the language and are more convincing to victims.
phaerus_iconix 2y ago
While you may well be correct in other cases, my local intuitions led me to wikipedia's [0] references to a NYT article, which claims that the scam centers in the town they are cutting power, etc., to primarily target Chinese victims. Since the abductees and other staff manning these call centers are mostly Chinese, it makes sense their victims are too. China is rich enough that they don't need to go to the extra hassle to find western-speakers. In fact, through both local news and second-hand accounts, I know there are even Thais who get tricked and abducted to scam Thais! Scammers are just equal opportunity about their cons: even the poorest bumpkin with a positive smartphone balance is welcome to ride on their roller-coster of desire and loss. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myawaddy?wprov=sfti1#Crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myawaddy?wprov=sfti1#Crime ed: deduplicate to; regret the last 28 minutes of my life.

HDThoreaun 2y ago

CCP has plenty of money. Theyre not north korea. That would be like the US government running scam centers. Juice not worth the squeeze.

tbrownaw 2y ago
How would it compare to the persistent belief that the CIA uses the illegal drug trade for funding?
- blackoil 2y ago
  CIA has to get funds beyond what is approved by US govt to fund unapproved missions. China doesn't have these problems.
  - iosguyryan 2y ago
    The amount of copium when it comes to China vs US is illogical. If you’ve ever done business in China, you know there are honest folk and there are officials who do backroom deals that flaunt or bend the law, particularly abroad. If there’s money to be had, it will be made. If there’s points to be scored on the latest edict, they will be scored. If it needs to be done, but the public can’t handle hearing about it for their own good, it shall be so.
    - HDThoreaun 2y ago
      The same is true of US officials. I still dont think any of them are running scam centers.