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> How does studying colonialism lead to that conclusion? "Almost always"? Based on what survey? Look at nonsense like this: https://www.dukeupress.edu/pollutio

> How does studying colonialism lead to that conclusion? "Almost always"? Based on what survey? Look at nonsense like this: https://www.dukeupress.edu/pollution-is-colonialism https://www.dukeupress.edu/pollution-is-colonialism Or pretty much anything featuring the word "decolonization". > The essence of protest is grabbing attention, disruption. That's not the point. The point is that shitheads think that "just stopping oil" at the drop of a hat (by 2030) _is_ an option. That governments can just "sign a treaty" and stop all the fossil fuel extraction in less time than it takes to design and build an average HVDC power line. I actually spoke with one of their members on WhatsApp, and they do believe that.

nielsbot 2y ago
Sorry, what exactly is nonsense about the linked paper? > The point is that shitheads think that "just stopping oil" at the drop of a hat (by 2030) _is_ an option Dream big!
- cyberax 2y ago
  > Sorry, what exactly is nonsense about the linked paper? Basically, that everybody is just trying to displace poor natives with pollution. > Dream big! Yeah, that's the part that is cringe and naïve. Adult people kinda need learn to distinguish between dreams and reality. And actually work on improving the reality.
  - nielsbot 2y ago
    > Basically, that everybody is just trying to displace poor natives with pollution. If by "everybody" you mean "Capital", then that's probably true, overall. It's how the system works. > Yeah, that's the part that is cringe and naïve. Pretty depressing that that is your take. Dream big, go in the right direction, get wins where you can. Better than aiming small and getting even less done. My take, anyway.
    - cyberax 2y ago
      > If by "everybody" you mean "Capital", then that's probably true, overall. It's how the system works. No, it's not. > Pretty depressing that that is your take. The "dream" part is not a problem. The violence to force that "dream" is.
      - nielsbot 2y ago
        > No, it's not. It absolutely is. Capital is appropriative. Capital destroys the natural world for growth and imposes tyranny on the working classes. So, agree to disagree. > The violence to force that "dream" is. Violence? You mean protests? Or policy changes that you disagree with?

nielsbot 2y ago

Sorry, what exactly is nonsense about the linked paper? > The point is that shitheads think that "just stopping oil" at the drop of a hat (by 2030) _is_ an option Dream big!

cyberax 2y ago
> Sorry, what exactly is nonsense about the linked paper? Basically, that everybody is just trying to displace poor natives with pollution. > Dream big! Yeah, that's the part that is cringe and naïve. Adult people kinda need learn to distinguish between dreams and reality. And actually work on improving the reality.
- nielsbot 2y ago
  > Basically, that everybody is just trying to displace poor natives with pollution. If by "everybody" you mean "Capital", then that's probably true, overall. It's how the system works. > Yeah, that's the part that is cringe and naïve. Pretty depressing that that is your take. Dream big, go in the right direction, get wins where you can. Better than aiming small and getting even less done. My take, anyway.
  - cyberax 2y ago
    > If by "everybody" you mean "Capital", then that's probably true, overall. It's how the system works. No, it's not. > Pretty depressing that that is your take. The "dream" part is not a problem. The violence to force that "dream" is.
    - nielsbot 2y ago
      > No, it's not. It absolutely is. Capital is appropriative. Capital destroys the natural world for growth and imposes tyranny on the working classes. So, agree to disagree. > The violence to force that "dream" is. Violence? You mean protests? Or policy changes that you disagree with?