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Am I missing some big news that happened in the past weeks which threatens EU user's privacy? Or is this political wind happening in US so you decide to switch

by ksec 2y ago

Am I missing some big news that happened in the past weeks which threatens EU user's privacy? Or is this political wind happening in US so you decide to switch ? I am reading a lot more about Russia and NATO in this thread.

Daril 2y ago
In my case, privacy is not the main issue because I have been self-hosting almost all my services for many years. It is about what is just, moral and right according to my own principles : honesty, respect, trust and fairness. I don't want to continue to contribute to making richer companies that try in every possible way to steal data and wealth from their customers and other nations with unfair behavior at the edge (or beyond the edge) of the law. And if that is not enough to also use every possible way to manipulate the people's beliefs with false claims and evil psychological tactics.
matthijsk 2y ago
From what I understand from here (I live in the Netherlands), handing over your data to US-based companies has been uncertain in terms of privacy for a long time. The US appears to have a lot less privacy protections, and a lot more allowances for the government to access company and user data (especially when non-US persons are involved). This makes it hard for US-companies handling data of EU citizens to comply with EU privacy regulations. Some legal provisions have been made to facilitate this, but, to answer your question, what changed recently is that the Trump administration recently effectively incapacitated the "Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board" that was central to these legal provisions. Above is my interpretation of matters, for a large part based on posts by a Dutch expert in these matters, Bert Hubert. In particular see this post: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/you-can-no-longer-base-your-government-and-society-on-us-clouds/ https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/you-can-no-longer-base-you... and this news article it links to: https://noyb.eu/en/us-cloud-soon-illegal-trump-punches-first-hole-eu-us-data-deal https://noyb.eu/en/us-cloud-soon-illegal-trump-punches-first...

by ksec 2y ago

Daril 2y ago

In my case, privacy is not the main issue because I have been self-hosting almost all my services for many years. It is about what is just, moral and right according to my own principles : honesty, respect, trust and fairness. I don't want to continue to contribute to making richer companies that try in every possible way to steal data and wealth from their customers and other nations with unfair behavior at the edge (or beyond the edge) of the law. And if that is not enough to also use every possible way to manipulate the people's beliefs with false claims and evil psychological tactics.

matthijsk 2y ago

From what I understand from here (I live in the Netherlands), handing over your data to US-based companies has been uncertain in terms of privacy for a long time. The US appears to have a lot less privacy protections, and a lot more allowances for the government to access company and user data (especially when non-US persons are involved). This makes it hard for US-companies handling data of EU citizens to comply with EU privacy regulations. Some legal provisions have been made to facilitate this, but, to answer your question, what changed recently is that the Trump administration recently effectively incapacitated the "Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board" that was central to these legal provisions. Above is my interpretation of matters, for a large part based on posts by a Dutch expert in these matters, Bert Hubert. In particular see this post: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/you-can-no-longer-base-your-government-and-society-on-us-clouds/ https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/you-can-no-longer-base-you... and this news article it links to: https://noyb.eu/en/us-cloud-soon-illegal-trump-punches-first-hole-eu-us-data-deal https://noyb.eu/en/us-cloud-soon-illegal-trump-punches-first...