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I can't think of something more hostile than requiring an account on a 3rd party, totally unrelated, platform to post a comment on a blog. I'll literally take

I can't think of something more hostile than requiring an account on a 3rd party, totally unrelated, platform to post a comment on a blog. I'll literally take ads and tracking over it.

McDutchie 2y ago
Disqus requires an account on their system, too.
- onli 2y ago
  Optionally it does not, see https://help.disqus.com/en/articles/1717211-guest-commenting https://help.disqus.com/en/articles/1717211-guest-commenting
spartanatreyu 2y ago
Mastodon is part of the fediverse, meaning accounts are federated (accounts on services can communicate with other accounts on other services). You can run your own server, on your own hardware, make your own account, own every step of the stack, and can comment on there. It's not just 3rd-party login, it's YOUR-party login.
- iLoveOncall 2y ago
  Lol I knew I would get this kind of answer and downvotes. You still have to make an account on a totally unrelated website. It's the shittiest experience one can think of. But your excuse is "Hey actually you can also setup the whole application yourself before making the account to post a blog comment on an unrelated website, so that's actually super awesome!". Absolutely ridiculous, and if any company you didn't like were to do something similar you would screech.
  - akerr 2y ago
    You would prefer to create a new account on every blog you visit and wish to comment on?
    - gkbrk 2y ago
      Usually blogs don't require creating an account to leave comments. Why present this false alternative when the common thing to do is just leaving a comment without creating an account?
      - sussmannbaka 2y ago
        why would you need to create an account to leave a comment? the site owner can own the entire flow if they so wish, including creating an anonymous actor for the comment.
      - BeetleB 2y ago
        > Usually blogs don't require creating an account to leave comments. Even back before 2010, almost all blogging platforms had an option that would let the owner require log in to comment. And it was fairly common, because of spam.
beej71 2y ago
I could add a button to swap the comments out for ads and tracking. ;) To your point, though, I don't expect anyone without an account already to post, but my target audience largely already has such accounts.
- iLoveOncall 2y ago
  > I don't expect anyone without an account already to post, but my target audience largely already has such accounts This is a ridiculous expectation. Virtually nobody uses Mastodon, especially since BlueSky now is the open platform of choice. But even without this, Twitter-like websites for me and a lot of other people have absolutely no usecase, despite being in the audience who could read your blog. Expecting all your visitors to have an account in nonsensical.
  - BeetleB 2y ago
    > Virtually nobody uses Mastodon You may want to look around you...
    - iLoveOncall 2y ago
      Less than a million monthly active users: https://joinmastodon.org/servers https://joinmastodon.org/servers This is massively down from 2 years ago where it was 1.7M: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/10bimq2/comment/j4aihpl https://www.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/10bimq2/comment/j... You may want to look around you...
  - beej71 2y ago
    I should be clear, you don't need a Mastodon account to read my blog and comments. But you do need a Mastodon account if you want to reply to my Mastodon post about my blog entry and have that show up in the blog. But maybe for your blog, you could use the same basic technique and do BlueSky comments instead.

I can't think of something more hostile than requiring an account on a 3rd party, totally unrelated, platform to post a comment on a blog. I'll literally take ads and tracking over it.

McDutchie 2y ago

Disqus requires an account on their system, too.

onli 2y ago
Optionally it does not, see https://help.disqus.com/en/articles/1717211-guest-commenting https://help.disqus.com/en/articles/1717211-guest-commenting

spartanatreyu 2y ago

Mastodon is part of the fediverse, meaning accounts are federated (accounts on services can communicate with other accounts on other services). You can run your own server, on your own hardware, make your own account, own every step of the stack, and can comment on there. It's not just 3rd-party login, it's YOUR-party login.

iLoveOncall 2y ago
Lol I knew I would get this kind of answer and downvotes. You still have to make an account on a totally unrelated website. It's the shittiest experience one can think of. But your excuse is "Hey actually you can also setup the whole application yourself before making the account to post a blog comment on an unrelated website, so that's actually super awesome!". Absolutely ridiculous, and if any company you didn't like were to do something similar you would screech.
- akerr 2y ago
  You would prefer to create a new account on every blog you visit and wish to comment on?
  - gkbrk 2y ago
    Usually blogs don't require creating an account to leave comments. Why present this false alternative when the common thing to do is just leaving a comment without creating an account?
    - sussmannbaka 2y ago
      why would you need to create an account to leave a comment? the site owner can own the entire flow if they so wish, including creating an anonymous actor for the comment.
    - BeetleB 2y ago
      > Usually blogs don't require creating an account to leave comments. Even back before 2010, almost all blogging platforms had an option that would let the owner require log in to comment. And it was fairly common, because of spam.

beej71 2y ago

I could add a button to swap the comments out for ads and tracking. ;) To your point, though, I don't expect anyone without an account already to post, but my target audience largely already has such accounts.

iLoveOncall 2y ago
> I don't expect anyone without an account already to post, but my target audience largely already has such accounts This is a ridiculous expectation. Virtually nobody uses Mastodon, especially since BlueSky now is the open platform of choice. But even without this, Twitter-like websites for me and a lot of other people have absolutely no usecase, despite being in the audience who could read your blog. Expecting all your visitors to have an account in nonsensical.
- BeetleB 2y ago
  > Virtually nobody uses Mastodon You may want to look around you...
  - iLoveOncall 2y ago
    Less than a million monthly active users: https://joinmastodon.org/servers https://joinmastodon.org/servers This is massively down from 2 years ago where it was 1.7M: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/10bimq2/comment/j4aihpl https://www.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/10bimq2/comment/j... You may want to look around you...
- beej71 2y ago
  I should be clear, you don't need a Mastodon account to read my blog and comments. But you do need a Mastodon account if you want to reply to my Mastodon post about my blog entry and have that show up in the blog. But maybe for your blog, you could use the same basic technique and do BlueSky comments instead.