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These illegal scam prisons are run by Chinese nationals and almost certainly backed by CCP. It's very cute for the Chinese government to pretend they don't have
by mvdtnz 2y ago
These illegal scam prisons are run by Chinese nationals and almost certainly backed by CCP. It's very cute for the Chinese government to pretend they don't have a direct hand in this scourge.
- walterbell 2y agoFrom the AP article: > about 200 Chinese citizens “suspected of involvement in fraud” were flown to an airport in the city of Nanjing, China’s official Xinhua news agency said.
- mvdtnz 2y agoExactly what I'm talking about. CCP are now pretending they didn't know / fund these people from the beginning.
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- xwolfi 2y agoIt's complicated, the CCP is big, like China is. You simplify it into a monolithic structure, but's it's very much not one, there are factions, geographical divisions, conflicting interests, etc. You're probably right some people inside the CCP protect those scam bosses, I would not bet an arm that Xi is encouraging it.
- nicoburns 2y agoWhat motivation would the CCP have to back this?
- bronson 2y agoOther than the massive profit?
- GauntletWizard 2y agoAnd the fact that these scam centers primarily target rich western countries that are at political odds with the CCP?
- janalsncm 2y agoThey primarily target Chinese, actually. That’s why they kidnap Chinese to work there, because they speak the language and are more convincing to victims.
- phaerus_iconix 2y agoWhile you may well be correct in other cases, my local intuitions led me to wikipedia's [0] references to a NYT article, which claims that the scam centers in the town they are cutting power, etc., to primarily target Chinese victims. Since the abductees and other staff manning these call centers are mostly Chinese, it makes sense their victims are too. China is rich enough that they don't need to go to the extra hassle to find western-speakers. In fact, through both local news and second-hand accounts, I know there are even Thais who get tricked and abducted to scam Thais! Scammers are just equal opportunity about their cons: even the poorest bumpkin with a positive smartphone balance is welcome to ride on their roller-coster of desire and loss. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myawaddy?wprov=sfti1#Crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myawaddy?wprov=sfti1#Crime ed: deduplicate to; regret the last 28 minutes of my life.
- HDThoreaun 2y agoCCP has plenty of money. Theyre not north korea. That would be like the US government running scam centers. Juice not worth the squeeze.
- tbrownaw 2y agoHow would it compare to the persistent belief that the CIA uses the illegal drug trade for funding?
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- ashoeafoot 2y agoSame as putin? Mafia state has a proxy to earn money and inflict social disruption on the west? Every succesfull scam is a your family should "vote for anti globalism extremists" for the rest of life flyer. To fail to protect against this kills democracy and rule of law.
- _tik_ 2y agoThese illegal scams are based in Shwe Koko, which is under the control of the BGF and they are not influenced by the CCP. The scam center is operated by a 14K triad leader who fled to Portugal in 1997 to escape China’s anti-triad crackdown. He is likely holding either Macau or Portuguese citizenship. The 14K triad was originally founded by former Kuomintang generals as an anti-communist action group. In the past, they were heavily involved in transporting and distributing drugs from the Golden Triangle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14K_(triad) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14K_(triad)
- ashoeafoot 2y agoI guess all the party members who "fled" to europe and canada while still in control and running their business are also to be seen as persecuted evildoers instead of what the ccp really is, a landed gentry that colonized its own people ?
- _tik_ 2y agoSome of these criminals suddenly claim to be CCP spies or victims of political or religious persecution to avoid extradition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_Zhijiang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_Zhijiang
- janalsncm 2y agoThat doesn’t make any sense. The Chinese are also the main victim of these scam factories. That’s why scammers kidnap Chinese to work there, because they speak the language and are more convincing to victims. Also, customs will specifically warn Chinese who are flying to those areas about these fake “job offers”. And the article mentions that Thailand is cracking down before their president meets with the Chinese, which doesn’t make any sense if the CCP is backing them.
- silversmith 2y agoAccording to the Economist series linked above, the industry has switched from scamming the chinese, to bigger targets in west. Taken a proven business model to new markets, so to speak. It was implied that CCP had a firm guiding hand helping this pivot.
- suraci 2y agoi'm a little curious is it true that you can only get information from the Economist or NYT or CNN or BBC or wikipedia? have anyone of you tried to get information from other sources? like some non-english articles and posts? or from some chinese who live in china?
- londons_explore 2y agoIn northern Thailand, airports have big signs at arrivals saying "Are you travelling to a new job? Have you been offered better pay than you could get at home? STOP HERE and talk to a police officer. Many before you have been tricked and kidnapped".
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- hyperdimension 2y agoCome on, that's not necessary.