This is what makes this whole discussion so difficult. The US government isn’t as efficient as it could be. No one with any exposure to its inner workings will

This is what makes this whole discussion so difficult. The US government isn’t as efficient as it could be. No one with any exposure to its inner workings will disagree with that. But the discussion is being framed as “well either you love the government or you love DOGE” but that’s a completely false dichotomy. I strongly support DOGE’s publicly stated mission. But that’s not what they are doing. The data is there. You can’t save money by cutting people who make $100k a year. We know how to save the government money. We know that every $1 spent on the IRS nets more than $1 and every $1 taken away loses more than $1.[0] We already have agencies and organizations which publicly list fraud.[1] As this article states the cruelty is the point. That’s been very clearly stated if not directly in the EO but by those involved. We can only move the discussion forward by actually talking about that. If you believe that making the bureaucracy afraid to do their job is a good idea then that’s an opinion you’re allowed to have. But hiding behind the facade of “efficiency” isn’t going to help get anything done. [0] https://www.cbo.gov/publication/60037 https://www.cbo.gov/publication/60037 [1] https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-105833 https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-105833 (New account since I’m closer to this than I’d like to be)