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That ship has sailed with technology in general. Sure, it isn't safe for EU governments to store data on US clouds. It also isn't safe for US governments to r
by crazygringo 2y ago
That ship has sailed with technology in general.
Sure, it isn't safe for EU governments to store data on US clouds.
It also isn't safe for US governments to rely on chips made in Taiwan that China could invade. Or for TikTok to be a primary media source in the US.
The fact is, we're an economically interconnected world at this point, in terms of software, in terms of hardware, and in terms of hardware supply chains.
And it's hard to see it going backwards. Economic efficiency is a powerful force. It often seems like the solution has to be to try to implement as many safeguards as possible, rather than cut off sources of technology. But I don't know... it's an incredibly difficult question.
- hinkley 2y agoThere’s an old civics aphorism: if goods don’t cross borders, then armies will. Giving all your data to foreign states though may be a bridge too far. That’s not the same as buying cars or Swedish Fish.
- crazygringo 2y ago> Giving all your data to foreign states though may be a bridge too far. Does it really matter? If large Western countries want to spy on each other, there are so many ways via so many devices. That's why I'm talking about safeguards -- why not just focus on ensuring everything is encrypted in rest and in transit, so you can use anybody's cloud anywhere?
- hinkley 2y agoSupply lines. You offer political asylum to someone I don’t like I can shut your entire federal government down to get him.
- crazygringo 2y agoThat's an act of war. Fortunately, going multi-cloud is a thing. Storing data with multiple providers in multiple countries. Lots of companies which specialize in multi-cloud solutions. Again, like I said -- safeguards.
- hinkley 2y agoGonna be a very short war.
- crazygringo 2y agoAnd if you're dumb enough to put your government clouds in enemy countries, then you deserve it. But we're not talking about enemy countries here, now are we? Or are you actually under the impression that we're talking about hosting data in Iran and North Korea...?
- hinkley 2y agoI don't know if you've been watching politics for the last 4 months...
- crazygringo 2y agoI don't know if you understand the concept of military enemy and how it differs from countries that are simply cooperating less...