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Huh? Biden won the popular vote in 2020 and Obama in both 2008 and 2012. The only outlier was 2016. (edit: thanks for the clarification.)
by radlad 2y ago
Huh? Biden won the popular vote in 2020 and Obama in both 2008 and 2012. The only outlier was 2016. (edit: thanks for the clarification.)
- gjsman-1000 2y agoI was talking about Trump, who won the popular vote in 2024 (edit: The first Republican popular vote winner in 20 years), with 4 million less votes than Biden and 3 million votes more than Harris. If you think about it, the story is more about how badly the Democratic Party stumbled, than how well Trump performed. The Democratic Party needs to accept that 6-7 million voters either switched sides or stayed home; and if they want to win again, they must change tactics accordingly.
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- radlad 2y ago> The Democratic Party needs to accept that 6-7 million voters either switched sides or stayed home; and if they want to win again, they must change tactics accordingly This is true, but it doesn't invalidate grandparent's idea either. Maybe Dems should run a reality show star.
- tzs 2y agoNote that Trump won the popular vote by a plurality, not a majority. Biden had a majority as did Obama both times. Bush also had a majority for his second term.
- scarface_74 2y agoThe total number of votes don’t matter. It’s just the votes in the swing states. If 75% of the people in California stay home, it doesn’t matter. They only need to change policy enough to keep from pissing off deep blue states and to flip a few swing states.
- xerox13ster 2y agoWhy are you talking about Trump’s vote counts if any mention of a reality TV star in the context of reality TV is too political for Hacker News? You were the first to say that something was too political for Hacker News and yet here you are in this thread, engaging in the most political discussion.